Xite vs System 6000

firubbi · Post by **firubbi** » Mon May 19, 2008 7:17 am

Does any of you tried system 6000 yet?(mastering or rev/delay) can we compare with Xite-1? is there any possibilities that xite+sfp5 will do something like system 6000? Or system 6000 is a different platform… not for 32bit pc users. I really like to know how much behind we’re… can our programmers can do MD4($995)?
thanks.

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Mon May 19, 2008 8:07 am

System 6000 is a hardware box, it doesn't use a computer for anything.

Xite-1 isn't out yet :p

Warp69 · Post by **Warp69** » Mon May 19, 2008 8:43 am

Its a question about the right algorithms and not DSP power (and RAM subsystem).

Cheers

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Mon May 19, 2008 8:47 am

Yes, but having both would be so satisfying 'eh?

I sure hope the team from Denmark has some new devices for Scope.

I will have a couple large leftover for such creations.

bill3107 · Post by **bill3107** » Tue May 20, 2008 1:22 am

yes, warp69 : you can count on me when your next baby is ready !!!!!! wink:

As for the system6000, you may refer to the powercore plugin right ? I am deeply convinced that 3rd party developpers for Scope are able to give us all the good reverbs we need at a cheaper price and... with a huge power (compared to the powercore ; i have dropped this solution because of power and latency issues ...) ...

Jo

firubbi · Post by **firubbi** » Tue May 20, 2008 4:40 am

Warp69 wrote:Its a question about the right algorithms and not DSP power (and RAM subsystem).
Cheers

cool

so we're almost there.
@ warp, do you think apogee mini-me + xite+our future plug will do something like system6000 or protools hd suffs? or i'll need better preamp.
thanks

moxi · Post by **moxi** » Tue May 20, 2008 10:59 am

what do you will do with an system 6000 in your home studio?

the Xite is in theory able to the the same , and the system 6000 won't never be able to do what the Xite do..

...as SC will probably never get acces to TC (or Lexicon, more lovely) reverb algorithmes.

for the AD/DA or preamp, anyone now can do great things if he want, and with customer that don't care about price..let SC be paid for the astounding programming stuff they have done, and the nice integration...

just buy an low-cost Lexicon boxe, you will get the nicest reverb algos, and differences in preamp quality won't be eard unless you plug it into a 200000Euro mixing desk...

sonolive · Post by **sonolive** » Tue May 20, 2008 11:50 am

hi

Xite vs System 6000

maybe an answer ...

DAS SYSTEM 5000 ...

Touch screen & 16 encoders ...

stay tuned !

cheers
olive

the19thbear · Post by **the19thbear** » Tue May 20, 2008 11:36 pm

WOW!!

bill3107 · Post by **bill3107** » Tue May 20, 2008 11:49 pm

are you kidding ???? ...

sonolive · Post by **sonolive** » Wed May 21, 2008 12:04 am

hi

Not at All !!!

things are in progress ! but absolutely don't know when we will issue it !!!

3, 6, 9 months ???

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5hw59_das-system-5000

sorry for the sad quality ... Dailymotion compresses too much ! boooh

more details soon

cheers
olive

katano · Post by **katano** » Wed May 21, 2008 12:11 am

WOW indeed!!

Silenzio · Post by **Silenzio** » Wed May 21, 2008 12:47 am

Hi
I was working on S6000. S6000 is FX box only. Scope is whole studio enviroment integrated with your DAW, or it can be used also as outboard (inside dedicated computer, as S6000). I cannot tell what Scope will able to do, but at the moment "sound" of S6000 ia faaaaaaaar better: especially dynamics and reverbs. It is TRUE SURROUND! With analog IO it has one of thr best ADA converters. S6000 is solid rock stable. Using it is more comfortable (comparing to scope) thanks to external controller.
So scope is more flexibile, but the sound (algorithms, converters, available "modules") is worse. And Scope is not surround.

I think more interesting would be comparing Kyma to Scope...

Regards

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Wed May 21, 2008 1:27 am

Kyma Capybara..................Great Sound Sculpting Platform

TC System 6000.................Great mixing and mastering platform

Scope.....................................Great synths.
Great mixing and effects
Great flexibilty with outboard gear.
The best forum
The best SDK developers
The best support team
The best 3rd party developers
Ultimate live performance rig
great drivers GSIF, ASIO 2

Sorry if I left anything out,......but it's been a long night recording with my inferior equioment.

bill3107 · Post by **bill3107** » Wed May 21, 2008 1:37 am

I agree 100% with you Jimmy !

firubbi · Post by **firubbi** » Wed May 21, 2008 9:05 am

you're right Jimmy. thats what i was thinking. and my wish if SC focus on Rec/Mastering.

erminardi · Post by **erminardi** » Wed May 21, 2008 10:27 am

I find the SC mastering tools very good for my works.
The only external mastering effect that I actual use is an external mastering EQ.
Recently as mastering EQ I've also discovered Har-Bal software: wow!!! A nice tool to control in other way the master frequencies.
My wish is a future 5 bands new version of Optimaster

3 bands are anyway ok for me...it's a good way to mantain me away from exagerate over postproduction tendence.

PSY Q is a imbattible killer!

VINCO a very good software compressor (one of the best in digital domain).

BX_digital is my wish for future...

The real lacks are a good modern maximizer and a limiter (something like L3 or UAD maximizer-limiter)

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Wed May 21, 2008 10:34 am

I am sure XITE-1's surround mixer and mastering pack will be sufficient.

I have a long way to go still since I always had Producers and Engineers from management to do all of the work.

Sadly I was more interested in composition and only paid minimal attention to the tricks these pros were using.

I am paying for that miscalculation these days.

But Scope and this forum have taught me so much that I should be up to speed very soon.

With DAS hard at work to bring us quality plugs and controllers, I have nothing to worry about.

Olive and Eric are truly dedicated to our platform. They purchased a Radikal controller from me just to try and make Mackie control for Scope devices, etc.

I see that they have gone a step further.

BTW Olive, I think you should not succumb to smaller numbers like " 5000 ". Give the System 6000 a run for their money and call it the " DAS System 7000 ".

I Believe We Are In Good Hands.

bill3107 · Post by **bill3107** » Wed May 21, 2008 10:05 pm

yes or you could call it SexThousand ...

firubbi · Post by **firubbi** » Thu May 22, 2008 2:46 am

im sure S6000 mastering pack will sound less quality in powercore. maybe the hardware is what make difference. like our BX hardware vs sofware(also the price)