Problems with Nuendo 3.2 & Cubase 3.1.1 but OK with Live

An area for people to discuss Scope related problems, issues, etc.

Moderators: valis, garyb

overpeak
Posts: 9
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 5:48 am

Problems with Nuendo 3.2 & Cubase 3.1.1 but OK with Live

Post by overpeak »

Hi Im have a MIDI problem run steinbergs soft...

at the begining the MIDI NOTES (plays for me with xp-10 roland or x5 korg keyboards) are recorded before (yes..before) that the line of the grid (example recording in 1/4 notes with click ativate and auto snap off) the latency is ok...depend the ulli settings, but the recording show before.....after any hours the notes are recorded after the line....

I tried with another midi interface (midi mate) and exist the same problem.
With Live 6.0.2 is ok
with Sonar 6 is ok
with Cubase 3.1.1 failed
with Nuendo 3.2 failed

set:
PULSAR 2 PLUS
Scope 4.5 (midi filter active)
xp sp2 (sp1 same problem)
intel core duo e6850 @ 3.00ghz (amd same problem)
2gb ram
no problem IRQ´S

Thanks!!
Neil B

Post by Neil B »

Just a thought Overpeak - is this anything to do with your pre-roll settings in Cubase?

(At least I think the expression is pre-roll)
overpeak
Posts: 9
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 5:48 am

Post by overpeak »

are you refer about the pre roll (punch in?)

for me exist conflict between ASIO SCOPE and Nuendo or Cubase....

ThankS Neil B!!
Attachments
playing with click (beeps)<br />during the record is ok<br />but after rec ,,,, midi notes appear before (not delay)
playing with click (beeps)
during the record is ok
but after rec ,,,, midi notes appear before (not delay)
MIDI PROBLEMS.JPG (181.23 KiB) Viewed 2268 times
SCOPEVISTA.JPG
SCOPEVISTA.JPG (156.48 KiB) Viewed 2267 times
Neil B

Post by Neil B »

Okay I see the problem clearer now - I just tried to rule out something obvious.
I'll have a think, but others know a lot more than I do.
User avatar
garyb
Moderator
Posts: 23380
Joined: Sun Apr 15, 2001 4:00 pm
Location: ghetto by the sea

Post by garyb »

somewhere in the advanced settings,"use system timestamp"......

i use SX3 with no problems, Scope does work properly with SX and Nuendo.
overpeak
Posts: 9
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 5:48 am

Post by overpeak »

"Use system timestamp" is on(active)

I ve reinstall nuendo and cubase ..(old versions too) but there are problems.
I ve changed the complete pc (mother, processor,ram..)
too tried with another MIDI INTERFACE (midi mate usb)
too tried changed the Windows SP1 & SP2.
too with scope 4.0 :(
Attachments
timestamp.JPG
timestamp.JPG (189.89 KiB) Viewed 2240 times
Jah Servant
Posts: 292
Joined: Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:00 pm

Post by Jah Servant »

in your device setup in cubase check your input and output latency on your scope asio page, are they the same? If not you'll need to upgrade cubase, I think this was a problem with sx3 (if I remember right), get the latest version of sx3 you can and install that.
overpeak
Posts: 9
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 5:48 am

Post by overpeak »

Yes input and output latency is the same!

Thanks!! Jah Servant
Attachments
ASIO SCOPE.JPG
ASIO SCOPE.JPG (181.5 KiB) Viewed 2213 times
User avatar
garyb
Moderator
Posts: 23380
Joined: Sun Apr 15, 2001 4:00 pm
Location: ghetto by the sea

Post by garyb »

try the dxdraw solution:
http://www.planetz.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... +timestamp

you can try unchecking the system timestamp as well...
overpeak
Posts: 9
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 5:48 am

Post by overpeak »

Excellent post!! thank you very much Garyb!!!

I had thinking that the problem can be grafic..but..

I don´t Know what I do.

Thanks!!

attach a tip that maybe help it solving
Attachments
vista.JPG
vista.JPG (177.09 KiB) Viewed 2203 times
directx_directdraw.JPG
directx_directdraw.JPG (71.86 KiB) Viewed 2203 times
overpeak
Posts: 9
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 5:48 am

Post by overpeak »

After 2 Hours this happened:
Attachments
after 2 hours (inverse situation).JPG
after 2 hours (inverse situation).JPG (126.05 KiB) Viewed 2199 times
User avatar
alfonso
Posts: 2225
Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2001 4:00 pm
Location: Fregene.
Contact:

Post by alfonso »

I've had this anticipated placement of recorded MIDI issue and it was cured by moving the "Ignoreportfilter" (or something similar) out from where it is located now in the Cubase SX directory (make a folder and put it in). This will allow all the emulated MIDI ports reappear in the Device settings of Cubase and you can chose the ones that work well. It has been previously reported here...somewhere.

Before the latest SX3 versions the ignoreportfilter was alkready put in a place where inactive and it had to be copied where it is now to work. From a certain version they decided to make it active, but it has been a mistake.

Sorry I wasn't too precise, but I'm not in the studio at the moment. I'm quite sure that this is the problem though.
User avatar
garyb
Moderator
Posts: 23380
Joined: Sun Apr 15, 2001 4:00 pm
Location: ghetto by the sea

Post by garyb »

there you go, that's a good one. the steinberg knowledgebase has that info...
overpeak
Posts: 9
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 5:48 am

Post by overpeak »

Muchisimas Gracias Alfonso!! (Im argentinian)

I ve tried search this file into the Nuendo files...but in v3.2 it not found...yes into cubase 3.1.1

I read the steinberg knowledgbase

http://knowledgebase.steinberg.net/5_1.html

but for me is very confuse...sorry

Idont know to do...

Now Im here...and there are anticipated placements of recorded MIDI issue

:-?
Attachments
steinberg_midiport.JPG
steinberg_midiport.JPG (165.49 KiB) Viewed 2130 times
VERSION 3.1.1
VERSION 3.1.1
midiportfilter_cubase sx3.JPG (64.88 KiB) Viewed 2130 times
VERSION 3.2
VERSION 3.2
nuendo_Midiportfilter.JPG (55.78 KiB) Viewed 2129 times
User avatar
garyb
Moderator
Posts: 23380
Joined: Sun Apr 15, 2001 4:00 pm
Location: ghetto by the sea

Post by garyb »

the file in question is "ignoreportfilter". if this file is in the root cubase or nuendo folder, it needs to be moved to the "MIDI port enabler" folder.


for the dxdraw solution, try both enabled and disabled.

the thing about a computer is that it's a system of files. if that file structure becomes corrupt in any way, it won't work right in ways that can be surprising....
overpeak
Posts: 9
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 5:48 am

Post by overpeak »

This file..."ignoreportfilter" (0kb) is only in Cubase sx3 root folder....in MIDI PORT ENABLER FOLDER....

Nuendo 3.2 (I ve install both) isn´t in PORT ENABLER FOLDER (nuendo folder) (Picture attachment above)

It´s ok

thanks Garyb again
User avatar
garyb
Moderator
Posts: 23380
Joined: Sun Apr 15, 2001 4:00 pm
Location: ghetto by the sea

Post by garyb »

sorry i haven't been able to help...
overpeak
Posts: 9
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 5:48 am

Post by overpeak »

Thanks! anyway!! Garyb!!
DELETED

kebaikan anti virus komputer .

Post by DELETED »

DELETED
User avatar
garyb
Moderator
Posts: 23380
Joined: Sun Apr 15, 2001 4:00 pm
Location: ghetto by the sea

Post by garyb »

yes, this does.
Post Reply