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:x ...it´s still there
i did the following things

bought 2 sata 320 GB drives, installed them and set up a whole new system.
a virgin xp, installed all the mainboard drivers, have the hd running at ultra dma 5, scope 4.5 installed brandnew, ableton,sibelius and sam 10 installed.

...still...

what about that ati issue, are there any experiences? is it likely?

please help me, i´m fiddling around for months now.

maybe another short descriptionwill help:

i get no heavy crackling just now and then a click, unfortunately it´s on the recordings.
samplitude tells me about lost asio buffers.

i don´t want a mac, i want my creamware stuff and i know it worked before..sorry for whining :)
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it should work with very low latency.

have you gone into system properties/advanced and set the performance options to "adjust for best performance" and turned off system restore and automatic updates?

have you gone into system information/hardware resources/conflicts-sharing and checked to see if the scope card is on the list? if it is, what is it sharing with?

do you have the latest ati driver installed? how about motherboard bios?

are you using an ad/da box and if so, do you have the master/slave relationship properly set?

if you have skype, perhaps we can speak by telephone....
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thank you guys, i´ll try tomorrow, it´s been a long day! I´ll check every one of these and i´ll keep you informed.

it´s a great community, by the way...
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very interesting, the older bios seems to work best(F1, F2, F3, F4).....
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yes, it seems, but f4 doesn´t solve my problem, yet it decreases the dpc latency to 27microsec, with f6 i had spikes up to 400. but the clicks are still there
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are you sure you are using asio drivers? which modules are you using? are you sure that ASIOscope and not ASIOmultimedia is selected in your apps?
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completely sure, i´m using the asio 2 24bit right now.

But what i found out (it´s too early to say it for sure - but it seems to be) is:

once i disabled the internal soundcard and the onboard usb i have no more clicks - so far....

now both pulsars are running on non shard irqs
pci 18
pci 20

i have disconnected my usb (not midi- )keyboard and mouse and have no usb attached

i´ll keep testing

keep your fingers crossed please

btw: i can live without usb, i can access most devices via network.

are there any similar experiences concerning usb or the internal sc

another thing: the graphic card has a high-definition audio output - any troubles with that?

cheers to you all
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you should still be able to use usb.

you only need to disable the controllers that shared irqs with scope, so most or all of your ports should still work. if you have ps/2 connections, you should use those.....
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i´ve just recorded several minutes of perfect silence...what a pleasure after all these troubles.
i´m cautious so i don´t want to say it too loud but i think that´s it, we got it.

garyb, thanks for your advice. if i got you right, you mean enable the onboard usb in the bios and deactivate it in the task-manager on irq 18.

but one thing leaves me wondering: i had tried to have just one pulsar on the non shared irq 20 and troubles were still there. the other pulsar was removed. any ideas?

and why did clicks and crckles appear also on the internal soundcard output?

anyway, i´m very happy that it seems to work, maybe it was a chain of causes (dma-setting, bios-stuff,irq-sharing, broken mainboard then crooked mainboard) and i think my wife is happy to have me back again (at least i hope she is) :P

i´ll do some heavy testing next week

thank you all!
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if you check system information with usb enabled in the bios, you'll see the name of the controller(s) shared with the cards, if any. the name will be something like 2DY7 or D5E7, or similar. this shows you which controller to disable in the device manager.

i don't know why you had clicks with both cards. perhaps dirty contacts, perhaps an improperly placed s/tdm cable(use both outside connectors on the cable with two cards, the middle connector should hang in space. use the s/tdm connectors closest to the back of the case.

i'm not sure what the cause of the other symptoms is, sorry...as you say, it may be a host of related things....
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the funny thing (or more precisely:one of the funny things) is: i had that internal sc disabled before: no results.
for usb: i don't know yet, we'll see if it works on the left irqs.
i am surprised, that it is so board dependant - in the old setup i had plenty of printers, scanners, dvb-receiver blabla attached without having problems and even the internal sc was running.

another thing i'm thinking about is: why won't sibelius accept the scope asio driver anymore. it used to, even with xtc-mode. now it crashes once i put the driver in.

strange adventures in the land of electro-esoteric.

i'll post any new discoveries in that issue.
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So now, i had time to do some testing.
The result is:
The machine is ok for daily use, i can record without crackling, can use my creamware stuff and playback asio-stuff.
When i use the S-5000 i have some crackling or glitches and so is sometimes the sampler in ableton. I´m running at the 2nd ULLI setting @44.1kHz.
Still usb is disabled as i wasn´t in need of it so far.

One thing is: is tried energy xt2 with xtc-mode, nice, so far, so good, with some devices i had a freezing screen and so did ableton 7 in xtc-mode (which is reported not to work, but it does- if you´re brave enough, concerning the freezing).

So, to resume it: i´m quite content, but somehow not really happy with the machine, time will tell....

Thanks for all the help
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by the way
usb is back again but teh ports sharing the irq are disabled in the system control.
no crackling....
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