cracks and clicks

zangsta · Post by **zangsta** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:26 am

luigicampala wrote: ...when it tried switching from Athlon2000 to 3000 i had some bad dropouts and crashes, no bluescreen but simply bump, crash, restart. It vanished when i got back to 2000....x

Another point for the power-unit may be the problem.
I simply assume the 3000 needs more juice than the 2000, but that´s just an assumption..
My son has had similar, unidentifiable problems with his computer,
the first time it turned out being the power-unit that was at the end of it´s life,
it exploded when a technician turned it on on his workbench.
The second time it turned out being the cpu that was fried from overheating.
Took me a week to figure that one out.

J_S

luigicampala · Post by **luigicampala** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:34 am

you´re right, but it is stable beside from that crackling issue.
i did some benchmarks and had no problems. and normally it doesn´t crash. only when i fiddle around with driver changing in my audio-apps.
i´ll try out that gpu change in the next days

luigicampala · Post by **luigicampala** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:43 am

i found something, i don´t know if it´s normal or what it means:
in the device manager, view devices by type i have

Intel ICH9 2port Serial ATA Srorage Controller 2 - 2926
Intel ICH9 2port Serial ATA Srorage Controller 1 - 2920
Primary IDE-Channel
Primary IDE-Channel
Secondary IDE-Channel
Secondary IDE-Channel

whereas in resources by type i have only
PCI 19 Intel ICH9 2port Serial ATA Srorage Controller 2 - 2926

what does that mean and does it mean anything?
Shouldn´t it be just 1 device?
is it possible it is left from the former asus p5k board, which i changed?

Thanks

zangsta · Post by **zangsta** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:52 am

That looks OK, IDE1 is for hard-drives IDE2 is for CD/DVDs !

luigicampala · Post by **luigicampala** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:03 am

yes but as far as i know i have only one ide-bus. the hd and the dvd are connected on the same cable in the one and only ide-bus input on this board

luigicampala · Post by **luigicampala** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:38 am

how could it be? i have just one ide-connector, the rest is sata.

Music Manic · Post by **Music Manic** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:31 pm

zangsta wrote:That looks OK, IDE1 is for hard-drives IDE2 is for CD/DVDs !

Shouldn't Hard drives be on seperate IDE channels?

Post by **garyb** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:26 pm

until you set the computer up correctly, i wouldn't expect it to work right. you likely will need to reinstall everything. it is possible to clone a disk, Acronis makes an app that will do that,but i'd start over with a better configuration. i wouldn't ever expect it to work well with the computer as is(one hd on the ide bus). i'm still thinking that the odds are that the bus is in pio mode.....

husker · Post by **husker** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:54 pm

yes, if DVD drive is on same IDE bus then there is a good change your drive is in PIO mode which will be slow and generate massive IRQ requests - and clicks will result

luigicampala · Post by **luigicampala** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:27 pm

thanks for the replies.
is there any way to test it, before i try to move or clone the disk. will i get some information when i remove the dvd drive, so that the hd is running alone? if i setup the system anew, i´m not sure to get another license from ableton or magix ... so i would prefer to copy the disk (without the wrong configuration of course

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Post by **garyb** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:16 pm

you can check the ide bus and the drive properties in the device manager. as far as cloning the drive, you can use this product:
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/pr ... grateeasy/

as far as the ableton and magix licenses, most magix program only require the instasllation disk to authorize the software. ableton has a serial number with the product, you're entitled to reinstall on the same computer....

luigicampala · Post by **luigicampala** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:37 pm

thx garyb

then device manager just tells me, dma if available and not applicable. so i think it turns out to be like you said and the drive is running in some kind of pio mode or any other, but definitely something isn´t right. maybe it´s a relict of the former mainboard and the jmicron-controller or anything like that. i´m gonna get me a sata drive, build win from scratch and beg for mercy from the gods of license. if all that fails, at least i got an additional drive then

husker · Post by **husker** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:51 am

This is a good guide on how to check PIO mode

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=61905

luigicampala · Post by **luigicampala** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:03 pm

...it´s still there
i did the following things

bought 2 sata 320 GB drives, installed them and set up a whole new system.
a virgin xp, installed all the mainboard drivers, have the hd running at ultra dma 5, scope 4.5 installed brandnew, ableton,sibelius and sam 10 installed.

...still...

what about that ati issue, are there any experiences? is it likely?

please help me, i´m fiddling around for months now.

maybe another short descriptionwill help:

i get no heavy crackling just now and then a click, unfortunately it´s on the recordings.
samplitude tells me about lost asio buffers.

i don´t want a mac, i want my creamware stuff and i know it worked before..sorry for whining

Post by **garyb** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:19 pm

it should work with very low latency.

have you gone into system properties/advanced and set the performance options to "adjust for best performance" and turned off system restore and automatic updates?

have you gone into system information/hardware resources/conflicts-sharing and checked to see if the scope card is on the list? if it is, what is it sharing with?

do you have the latest ati driver installed? how about motherboard bios?

are you using an ad/da box and if so, do you have the master/slave relationship properly set?

if you have skype, perhaps we can speak by telephone....

luigicampala · Post by **luigicampala** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:26 pm

thank you guys, i´ll try tomorrow, it´s been a long day! I´ll check every one of these and i´ll keep you informed.

it´s a great community, by the way...

luigicampala · Post by **luigicampala** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:06 pm

i found this
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/24721 ... oblem-ds3r

sounds interesting

Post by **garyb** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:26 pm

very interesting, the older bios seems to work best(F1, F2, F3, F4).....

luigicampala · Post by **luigicampala** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:31 pm

yes, it seems, but f4 doesn´t solve my problem, yet it decreases the dpc latency to 27microsec, with f6 i had spikes up to 400. but the clicks are still there

Post by **garyb** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:19 am

are you sure you are using asio drivers? which modules are you using? are you sure that ASIOscope and not ASIOmultimedia is selected in your apps?