I dont know am i doing this right or not. For example i want to record my project mix (obviously) and i am connecting L and R channels of my master mixer setup to VDAT l1 and l2. Then from VDAT O1 and O2 to my analog destination (to hear did i record something at all).
So i go to VDAT settings and i give name to tape ie TEST( i set up resoultion etc.) and i point it out to desired directory ie Test(again). I am able to record and when i press playback i can hear what is recorded and all that is fine.
However when i go to directory Test i can see that there is also empty/silent Track 3,4,5,6,7,8 so how can i "tell" VDAT to not bounce those silent tracks?
Also how i am supposed to record and bounce with VDAT in stereo? After VDAT recording my main mix is in two parts. test 1.wav for left and test2.wav for right. I want my main mix to be exported as stereo. Obviously i can chain them in some wave editor but is this what i am asking possible?
edit: Also according to some helpful guy in this thread: http://www.planetz.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... light=vdat i am supposed to press stop twice to stop VDAT file handling so i can edit them in sound editor. But weird thing is that when i press stop twice i can not press edit anymore. If i press stop just once i can press edit but then i get "This file could not be accessed. It is already in use by some other application. This application must be finished before the file can be accessed" from my soundeditor. ???
Thanks for any help...
VDAT questions
In bouncing i mean exporting. I am bad at english. So this is answer? I cant do it? What old days? We are in 2008. It is not that i am complainging or whatever i am asking just can i do it like that. Merging two mono files is not problem also but it would be nice to have working as supposed "edit" buttons.garyb wrote:vdat is a tape deck. bouncing is for balls, in the old days of tape decks, bouncing was done by actually recording to a new track....think, hardware.
Though i dont see a reason why VDAT should produce "empty" tracks if there are no connection to that channels. It is temporary waste of HD space.
This might seem stupid comment, but were the "unused" tracks armed for recording? if they were, it's normal VDAT recorded the "empty" files.johncemt wrote:Though i dont see a reason why VDAT should produce "empty" tracks if there are no connection to that channels. It is temporary waste of HD space.
Cheers!VDAT manual wrote:Track section
Record-enable buttons 1-8: Each
button enables or disables an individual
track for recording (known as recordenabled,
record-ready, or armed). When
a track is record-ready, a red LED flashes
in the ‘R’ display line. Now when the VDAT
is engaged to record (by clicking on the
Record button in the transport, or by a
punch-in operation) audio is recorded to
that track and the ‘R’ status indicator
remains continuously lit.
Raul
Hi Raul! Yes it seems stupid but it is probably not or maybe it is. I was going through manual and of course i did not arm other "unused" tracks but they are there no matter what i do. Arm them or not they will be generated with "used" tracks... Empty wav files...This might seem stupid comment, but were the "unused" tracks armed for recording? if they were, it's normal VDAT recorded the "empty" files.
Cheers!
Raul
(can you try this at your setup, maybe i am doing something wrong)
Last edited by johncemt on Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:06 am, edited 2 times in total.
Nothing to sorry i know that you are helpful man here. I did not expect from VDAT to be editor also. I know concept of VDAT. By reading manual that "edit" button should launch my editor of choice with file loaded inside already. However my problem is well described "This file could not be accessed" and it seems that other users does have problems too with edit button (alfonso said same in similar thread)garyb wrote:the vdat "tapes" make wav files. these can be opened in another editor. vdat has no editor in itself, it's just a recorder. that's why i say think hardware. for all intents and purposes, vdat is an adat and that's about it.
sorry to seem sarcastic, it's all friendly.
You need to read my question regarding edit button again. I am pretty bad at english
After thinking a while, the answer appeared.johncemt wrote:Hi Raul! Yes it seems stupid but it is probably not or maybe it is. I was going through manual and of course i did not arm other "unused" tracks but they are there no matter what i do. Arm them or not they will be generated with "used" tracks... Empty wav files...This might seem stupid comment, but were the "unused" tracks armed for recording? if they were, it's normal VDAT recorded the "empty" files.
Cheers!
Raul
It's normal that VDAT will create a file for each track, armed or not.. The reason is that VDAT will allow you to record any track at any position, regardless on that you recorded before in that track or not, and still keep all the .wav files synchronized.. For that I presume it's more efficient if the "fixed length" files are there from the start.
It could also be to reduce file fragmenting.. you are now recording some tracks out of the 8, but you don't know for this "tape" how many tracks you'll be using tomorrow
As gary said, "think hardware"
imagine a VDAT file as a hardware tape containing 8 recordable tracks.. the tape size/width will always be the same, no matter how many tracks you are arming/recording. The same happens here 
Yes, VDAT uses the pre-formatet "tape" approach. It forced you to be really clever in the way you use the waves.
The minimum is 8, and for stereo you would need to splice two mono tracks in a wave editor. Or you could use STS3000 to "sample" your mixdown. STS records to memory at first though, so your song can't be too long.
I have ot tried this, but you could edit the vdat tape file in notepad and perhaps have all the tracks you don't need refere to a "dummy" wave file. Then delete the files you don't need, if you are worried about space.
The minimum is 8, and for stereo you would need to splice two mono tracks in a wave editor. Or you could use STS3000 to "sample" your mixdown. STS records to memory at first though, so your song can't be too long.
I have ot tried this, but you could edit the vdat tape file in notepad and perhaps have all the tracks you don't need refere to a "dummy" wave file. Then delete the files you don't need, if you are worried about space.
Ok guys i got it for the unarmed and empty tracks. Again it is not a big deal to merge two mono files. I wont record more then two files at the same time since i am just bouncing my main mix and that is all. I was just asking is it possible to get only one stereo file but it is fine to work that. We can leave my "tracks" question and thank you guys for help on this 
Gary of course that editor must be registered to vdat and it is but i am telling you. You can not press edit button untill you press stop. Then you can press edit and editor is launched but it is giving me message that file is already in use by another process (vdat in this case). To "unarm" vdat to not use recorded files you must press stop twice (to go in blinking mode) but when you do that you can not press edit anymore
I is a bit funny, and after all these years i would expect it to work as it should but it is not any kind of show stoper
I will post this in bug thread
Gary of course that editor must be registered to vdat and it is but i am telling you. You can not press edit button untill you press stop. Then you can press edit and editor is launched but it is giving me message that file is already in use by another process (vdat in this case). To "unarm" vdat to not use recorded files you must press stop twice (to go in blinking mode) but when you do that you can not press edit anymore
I is a bit funny, and after all these years i would expect it to work as it should but it is not any kind of show stoper
I will post this in bug thread