SCOPE X-ite still VIRTUAL?

johnbowen · Post by **johnbowen** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:40 pm

It was really great to finally meet Mehdi (SpaceF)! Super nice guy, and quite knowledgable (of course!). He and Martin (warp69) finally also got to meet, after several disconnects of just missing each other. Looking forward to seeing the others in the coming days.

The other thing I wanted to mention that is new and quite impressive is the granular synth plugin done in-house by a new guy. It's going to be called the 'Gizzmo', and is the result of some really excellent work! The first new synthesis approach for a device in many years (not counting some of the Flexor modules). Mehdi, did you get a picture of that as well?

john b.

spacef · Post by **spacef** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:53 pm

Hey John,
I was extremely pleased to meet you, and Martin at last !! and all the great Sonic Core team and their spirit. Jurgen, Holger, Klaus, Ralph Mr KeyMan and Ralf "Mr i really love to play prodissey loud"

). I was feeling a bit guilty to leave after one day only and not seeing everyone who will join the Mess.... It is a great team at Sonic Core and they do products that are really not easy to produce or even to imagine

Ok so, if everyone is ok, I will continue blogging in this thread. (otherwise i can move in Off topic where i will try to post some other pics less related to scope...

EDITED I removed some pics that I intended for planetz core users only, as a very sneak preview thank you.

husker · Post by **husker** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:58 pm

this is looking gooooooooooooooooooooooooooood

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:59 pm

tease us a bit Mehdi

never seen pics with so much anticipation.

pling · Post by **pling** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:00 pm

granular synth, coool! more of that kinda news, please

the new fx look really nice as well.

Neutron · Post by **Neutron** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:08 pm

I hope theres a choice about having bright white background blasting in your face!

anyways apart from that it looks amazing. 18dsp is good, it meanss they can use less of them in a smaller version

spacef · Post by **spacef** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:38 pm

Neutron wrote:18dsp is good, it meanss they can use less of them in a smaller version

yes and no because as now users have an option to assign devices to particular dsps if they want to, so it can be useful to have headroom. Also, the synths used in the picture of the dsp meter are pretty light ones, for which 8 voices is not impossible at all on Scope already. For mixing, you can have a lot of dynamic effects, eqs etc active on all channels.

Well, it is true that not everybody needs such a power. Some people really do (studios or Live performers who need to be able to go in the project as far as possible without boucing/changing project).

Music Manic · Post by **Music Manic** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:02 pm

Wow! very sexy.

Very exciting.Can't wait.

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:52 pm

all this looks very promising.

I am really glad that there is a new channel strip eq also !

the peq4 was always nice for "rough tasks".
I hope the new one is more the "precision type" eq.

wow wow wow.

Post by **garyb** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:02 pm

maky325 · Post by **maky325** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:11 pm

New hardware, new algos, new devices(that eq is looking like SSL strip, hopefully it will sound even smoother then peq4) , new skin, new driver...

husker · Post by **husker** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:32 pm

so who is who then?

bill3107 · Post by **bill3107** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:03 am

more pictures !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you Medhi and John .... That's so Xiting...

Jo

moxi · Post by **moxi** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:09 am

Is it possible to see the % of DSP load? your picture is two time cutted at a non convenient place...

new drivers: fine, two or three new devices (even if they look like just a redraw of the old one for the Eqs): fine..

not to borring you, but the SONIC CORE Platform seems to be nothing else than a white and black SFP..

it look like the dev effort mainly serve to crossgrade to new DSPs and to update drivers for new OS, look promising for the next upcoming years, but nothing revolutionnary at this time.. even if the DSP power look great, who will need to get 140DSPs amount for this price, when besides 14DSP boards price drop down and so you can get enough power for your need at half the price (for 3 * 14dsp board)? about pci bandwith problem, who really need to load 35 reverb at the same time?

does the new platform have new mixers that benefit from the huge amount of power (higher mixing bitdepht, as some other dsp platform already propose 56bit mixing headroom..?)

maybe there is something new about MIDI handling? Does the Xcite still crash when overloaded with Pbend data or just forwarding sysex to other gear?

what is new in the patchbay?

thanks..

King of Snake · Post by **King of Snake** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:15 am

thanks for this pics and info so far.
Did SC have any info about possible other new hardware options besides the XITE-1? (lower DSP, different I/O)

FrancisHarmany · Post by **FrancisHarmany** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:43 am

Cool..... just cool......

Did you max out DSP with the 4 synth w/ 8 voices and some sfx ?

Mr-Bit · Post by **Mr-Bit** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:50 am

"maybe there is something new about MIDI handling? Does the Xcite still crash when overloaded with Pbend data or just forwarding sysex to other gear? "

This is what I want to know as I have been suffering for 6yrs with midi related crashes/freezes (pulsar II) only the benefits and lack of an alternate solution have kept me loyal.

jdieks · Post by **jdieks** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:51 am

moxi wrote:Is it possible to see the % of DSP load? your picture is two time cutted at a non convenient place...

new drivers: fine, two or three new devices (even if they look like just a redraw of the old one for the Eqs): fine..

not to borring you, but the SONIC CORE Platform seems to be nothing else than a white and black SFP..

it look like the dev effort mainly serve to crossgrade to new DSPs and to update drivers for new OS, look promising for the next upcoming years, but nothing revolutionnary at this time.. even if the DSP power look great, who will need to get 140DSPs amount for this price, when besides 14DSP boards price drop down and so you can get enough power for your need at half the price (for 3 * 14dsp board)? about pci bandwith problem, who really need to load 35 reverb at the same time?

does the new platform have new mixers that benefit from the huge amount of power (higher mixing bitdepht, as some other dsp platform already propose 56bit mixing headroom..?)

maybe there is something new about MIDI handling? Does the Xcite still crash when overloaded with Pbend data or just forwarding sysex to other gear?

what is new in the patchbay?

thanks..

more power=more devices... i don't know what you're doing with your scope board(s), but playing 2 pro-5s polyphonic makes my 3 pulsar 2s crumble...

so yeah, if you have 3 scope pros you can do about all the mixing realtime... but if you have 7 more virtual dsps means people can start making better sounding algos... like reverbs that DO sound close to lexicon ones for instance...

so stop whining like you're from some conservative party or something

besides.. 1 more generation of mainboards and there won't be pci on it anymore probebly

kylie · Post by **kylie** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:27 am

jdieks wrote:besides.. 1 more generation of mainboards and there won't be pci on it anymore probebly

there are current boards (with core2 support) that have even ISA available. remember that long black slots?

these are made for special applications and environments for those who can't afford to get rid of their precious expansions. a serious DAW would be a candidate for that, imho.

PCI is not dead.

-greetings, markus-

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:35 am

moxi wrote:Does the Xcite still crash when overloaded with Pbend data or just forwarding sysex to other gear?

Wow, you've already got an Xite then moxi? Didn't know anyone had used it long enough to know that it STILL crashes.