Ebay scams on Scope cards

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Tau
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Ebay scams on Scope cards

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Some apparently get sold over and over again, to the highest bidder, second highest, etc... Just happened to a close friend of mine who tried to buy a 15 DSP.

If you get an email, apparently from ebay, offering you a second-chance, or the same item you didn't win for some reason, always check your MyEbay page for the message, and answer it from there. Never send any money, much less through western union and other postal services, and especially outside of Ebay supervision. Bank transfers, although stupidly expensive, at least need an actual name and address, so it's safer. Paypal can easily be reversed in case of trouble (but don't count too much on it). Don't answer with any details - it'll only give them information to better fool you next time. If you have doubts about the message, just forward it to spoof%ebay.com - you'll soon get a response if it's legit or not.

Take no chances.

I have done business with other members of Planet Z, even outside Ebay, and everything always went smoothly. True gentlemen. But of course, the benefits of being a valued Planet Z member are worth more than a thousand euros for some of us, and I really couldn't imagine any of them scamming me here. Still, not everybody is the same, and many non-members may register to try to make a legitimate deal, or someone might register just to make their first buy into Scope. My suggestions to avoid a lot of headaches:

- always ask for the Serial number of the card; If selling, please post the serial number of the card;
- dealing via PM is, of course, acceptable, but it's wise to publicly post at least when you reach an agreement. The details are of no interest, just the fact that one is selling to the other. Posting also when items are sent, or received, will let Z know that all went well, and there's a new happy scoper.
- usually, Cash-on-Delivery costs about 10-15 euros, but I think it's quite safe to use that. The package is more easily trackable and if undelivered, returns to sender. Yes, it's sill possible to be scammed, if you send to a false address you have to pay for the round trip, but maybe something can be arranged, like a small deposit (eg: 10%, or the postal fees so that it balances out), or whatever makes both parties comfortable. Usually, sellers frown about COD, but I still think it's a good idea. Besides, it's better to pay the expenses to the post office than to any (sort of) bank IMO.

These are just a few pointers, I would like to know how you feel about these, maybe I'm forgetting something, or seeing it wrong, and if you have any tips on how to avoid being scammed, please share.


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Post by dawman »

Great Advice Tau.

On ebay when bidding for an item. The best way to play the game is to just bid right away, and put the amount you want to pay only.

50% of the time there's a schill who tries to raise the bid, and since it's a schill ( friend ), he never buys. Then you will recieve a 2nd chance offer that cancels all bids other than yours.

Tau's advice is solid. Stay inside of ebay PayPal.

When you see items being listed more than once, it's just some chump who plays the game above, but plays it poorly. And doesn't even want the second chance offer to be sent.

I won an A16U for 300 USD once due to this, and a pair of used Barbetta's for 600 USD. All because I turn the game around by expecting this trick in advance.


Happy Hunting. :wink:
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Post by FrancisHarmany »

Good intel! Reminds me to stay away from Ebay.

Bought from Z 2 times without troubles :)
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Post by Nestor »

Precise info, thank you!
Perhaps one point to add here on the forum could be a “safe list” of Planet Z people that have had good experiences with each other.
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Post by braincell »

I actually heard of someone in here ripping someone off but I'm not going to say who. It was someone who borrowed money and didn't pay it back!
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Post by hifiboom »

Never deal with people that write you an email and tell you that the highest bidder didn`t buy the object and offers you a new deal outside of ebay.

In most cases they bid on their own stuff via a second ebay account and try to achieve a better end price.

Once you do the deal without ebay and transfer the money you have to rely on yourself and cannot ask for ebay help when there are problems...

and in most cases there are problems.... :P

I`m very happy that all my deals on buying scope cards on ebay went very fine.
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Post by skwawks »

just bid in the last minute 8) . There's no point bidding earlier anyway it just encourages others . I had one dispute that I had to escalate with ebay but they were great and sorted it out quickly (a few days). Only bid for people with good feedback and if theres a problem be polite to ebay and paypal and they WILL sort it out
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