Hi Neutron,
Yes it's what I have with C2SBE (check my config in MV thread)
but I got these numbers with my P4C800 too.
Cheers
Michel
Masterverb Test Thread
Hi. Just small report. today i have a chance and i did some quick test on intel 975xbx2 mainboard.
Clean install. Everything disabled onboard etc.14DSP Again 10 masterverbs !!!
Adding one Pulsar II so 21(20 real) and i can run 12 Masterverb. This is some slight improvement since on Asus P5BE i cant run more then 10 masterverb even with 20DSP. So it seems that intel board does have better PCI resourcing but results are under expected so i am going for Supermicro Mb that is sure.
Btw on that intel MB i can run three P-100 without a problem along with STS5000, minimax,vectron etc....On Asus P5BE i cant run more then two P-100 without PCI overflow and DSP error...
Thanks MD69 for your report.
Clean install. Everything disabled onboard etc.14DSP Again 10 masterverbs !!!
Adding one Pulsar II so 21(20 real) and i can run 12 Masterverb. This is some slight improvement since on Asus P5BE i cant run more then 10 masterverb even with 20DSP. So it seems that intel board does have better PCI resourcing but results are under expected so i am going for Supermicro Mb that is sure.
Btw on that intel MB i can run three P-100 without a problem along with STS5000, minimax,vectron etc....On Asus P5BE i cant run more then two P-100 without PCI overflow and DSP error...
Thanks MD69 for your report.
New results. I am finally finished with searching. It is Intel DP35DP. Clean install.
Intel DP35DP
Asus GeForce 7600
2GB Kingmax ram
LAN enabled.
Firewire disabled.
ACPI mode
1x Scope pro
1x Pulsar II
20 DSP total (21 reported ???)
13 Masterverbs- 14 with DSP and PCI error.
Just one Scope pro (14 DSP) resulting in 10 masterverb with PCI overflow on 11th. So i believe with Scope Pro and Pulsar II adding another SRB i can expect 15 or 16 masterverb which is about same as every other similar setup posted here. With Matrox VGA card maybe even better. It seems that P35 is nice with scope.
I did some research and i believe that on newer boards PCIe VGA cards installed you will run in to PCI overflow problems faster. As cards tend to be bus master device. So they "steal" bandwith. This depend on chipset itself but also on board manufacturer (check my results with Asus board). Only alternative to this problem is Matrox VGA card range. They are designed with "nicer" PCI management and you have some options which are unavailable in other products (ati, nvidia). For example you can disable PCI bus mastering on their cards. ATI and Nvidia dont offer such options. On the other side they are bad for 3d games. In some results even pretty old Riva TNT can beat newest Matrox G550. But if you look at some earlier results you will see that most better results often contain Matrox card.
Regarding nain board i must say that Intel board is pretty well produced. You can forget BIOS tweaking since there is only minor options to tweak. Not even 50% of what you can find on Asus,Gigabyte or DFI type bios. for example on that intel board you even dont have option to enable or disable "Plug And Play OS" which is pretty often discussed here. But real "Standard PC" mode is not working for multi cpus anyway.
All in all if someone need basic and solid mainboard Intel is right choice. Go for it.
That is all
Take my apology for bad english
Intel DP35DP
Asus GeForce 7600
2GB Kingmax ram
LAN enabled.
Firewire disabled.
ACPI mode
1x Scope pro
1x Pulsar II
20 DSP total (21 reported ???)
13 Masterverbs- 14 with DSP and PCI error.
Just one Scope pro (14 DSP) resulting in 10 masterverb with PCI overflow on 11th. So i believe with Scope Pro and Pulsar II adding another SRB i can expect 15 or 16 masterverb which is about same as every other similar setup posted here. With Matrox VGA card maybe even better. It seems that P35 is nice with scope.
I did some research and i believe that on newer boards PCIe VGA cards installed you will run in to PCI overflow problems faster. As cards tend to be bus master device. So they "steal" bandwith. This depend on chipset itself but also on board manufacturer (check my results with Asus board). Only alternative to this problem is Matrox VGA card range. They are designed with "nicer" PCI management and you have some options which are unavailable in other products (ati, nvidia). For example you can disable PCI bus mastering on their cards. ATI and Nvidia dont offer such options. On the other side they are bad for 3d games. In some results even pretty old Riva TNT can beat newest Matrox G550. But if you look at some earlier results you will see that most better results often contain Matrox card.
Regarding nain board i must say that Intel board is pretty well produced. You can forget BIOS tweaking since there is only minor options to tweak. Not even 50% of what you can find on Asus,Gigabyte or DFI type bios. for example on that intel board you even dont have option to enable or disable "Plug And Play OS" which is pretty often discussed here. But real "Standard PC" mode is not working for multi cpus anyway.
All in all if someone need basic and solid mainboard Intel is right choice. Go for it.
That is all
Take my apology for bad english
I was going to use the old GForce PCI-e board w/ my DP35DP. I was aware of the Matrox cards customisations from having those ancient G450's for so many years.
We will build the Vegas box this Wednesday. Let us share our findings so we and others may benefit from it.
GaryB, should I maybe purchase the PCI-e version of the Matrox? I could get one locally if the results w/ the GForce eVGA are not reliable.
Personally I never had any trouble w/ overflow or the PCI-e. And my MV's were aroung 10 as well.
One things for sure, I use an enormous amount of Scope delays and 2 psuedo reverbs from Celmo and MCCY.
I still can have the amount of delays and reverbs necessary for my personal DAW, which is where I can do my experimental work for the production DAW where stability comes first.
We will post the MV test results on the 26th, live from the MGM Grand Hotel in Las Vegas.
Ankyuvarymush.
We will build the Vegas box this Wednesday. Let us share our findings so we and others may benefit from it.
GaryB, should I maybe purchase the PCI-e version of the Matrox? I could get one locally if the results w/ the GForce eVGA are not reliable.
Personally I never had any trouble w/ overflow or the PCI-e. And my MV's were aroung 10 as well.
One things for sure, I use an enormous amount of Scope delays and 2 psuedo reverbs from Celmo and MCCY.
I still can have the amount of delays and reverbs necessary for my personal DAW, which is where I can do my experimental work for the production DAW where stability comes first.
We will post the MV test results on the 26th, live from the MGM Grand Hotel in Las Vegas.
Ankyuvarymush.
well, it happened to cross my way for the small amount of 60 Euro, so I post the figures for the Gigabyte GA-946GMX-S2 (intel 946GZ)
not very useful for the rest of you, as only generation one boards playing - and even more boring as it's the same as for the Intel 815...
5 Masterverbs up and running connected in the project, #6 fails.
cheers, Tom
not very useful for the rest of you, as only generation one boards playing - and even more boring as it's the same as for the Intel 815...
5 Masterverbs up and running connected in the project, #6 fails.
cheers, Tom
Well I guess I should be happy w/ the DP35DP motherboard.
We loaded 15 w/o being able to load the 16th MV.
I liked the 965 w/ 11 MV's, but this board seems to take much more than previous Intels.
With the new CPU,PSU,HDD, 4GB's of RAM, and motherboard, this set up loads everything w/ twice as fast as the 965 combo.
I didn't think that Scope would be snappier, but everything just comes alive like never before.
The 3GB switch allows much more content than the standard 2GB's of RAM. I rather doubt I will need XP64, Vista. That's fine with me, since I was after max DSP's, and max content. My wishes came true.
We loaded 15 w/o being able to load the 16th MV.
I liked the 965 w/ 11 MV's, but this board seems to take much more than previous Intels.
With the new CPU,PSU,HDD, 4GB's of RAM, and motherboard, this set up loads everything w/ twice as fast as the 965 combo.
I didn't think that Scope would be snappier, but everything just comes alive like never before.
The 3GB switch allows much more content than the standard 2GB's of RAM. I rather doubt I will need XP64, Vista. That's fine with me, since I was after max DSP's, and max content. My wishes came true.
is an nvidia card, don't remember which one. it's a lower/mid priced model.
i don't do extreme tweaks usually, the effort isn't worth the reward, so 15mvs is very respectable.
the 16th's error was "no more dsp memory" so this board works well. the G33 and P35 chipsets with the E6850 are really smokin'.
btw- Ken, the problem seems to have been a bad s/tdm cable. reducing the system to one card and then adding from there, and a little file housekeeping fixed the problem. unfortunately, by the time everything was perfect and the mess cleaned up it was 7:30am...
i don't do extreme tweaks usually, the effort isn't worth the reward, so 15mvs is very respectable.
the 16th's error was "no more dsp memory" so this board works well. the G33 and P35 chipsets with the E6850 are really smokin'.
btw- Ken, the problem seems to have been a bad s/tdm cable. reducing the system to one card and then adding from there, and a little file housekeeping fixed the problem. unfortunately, by the time everything was perfect and the mess cleaned up it was 7:30am...
It's the NVidia GForce 5600GT w/ 256MB's of DDRIII.
I have had other 3 x 15DSP card boxes before, but the performance of this w/ the 4GB's of DDRII 800 @ CL4, and the 3GB LAA Switch is a seriously fast solution. I left at 3:30am after a night of festivities w/ GaryB, and Kensuguro. These guys refused to sleep.
This I know, when I left, the set-up was all fucked up in man y ways, when I returned to pack the rig and take La Familia Bogdanoff to the airport, it was screaming !!
It was a bi-coastal Scope gathering. NYC, and LA meet up in Las Vegas.......take one.
With GaryB and Kensuguro working on the DAW, I slept like a baby. 2 fierce Scope warrioirs trading secrets,.....it was a great time in Las Vegas.
Maybe one of them will elabotate in the OT thread about the festivities involved.
Scope Rules in 32bit XP still................................I fear change.
I have had other 3 x 15DSP card boxes before, but the performance of this w/ the 4GB's of DDRII 800 @ CL4, and the 3GB LAA Switch is a seriously fast solution. I left at 3:30am after a night of festivities w/ GaryB, and Kensuguro. These guys refused to sleep.
This I know, when I left, the set-up was all fucked up in man y ways, when I returned to pack the rig and take La Familia Bogdanoff to the airport, it was screaming !!
It was a bi-coastal Scope gathering. NYC, and LA meet up in Las Vegas.......take one.
With GaryB and Kensuguro working on the DAW, I slept like a baby. 2 fierce Scope warrioirs trading secrets,.....it was a great time in Las Vegas.
Maybe one of them will elabotate in the OT thread about the festivities involved.
Scope Rules in 32bit XP still................................I fear change.
I get 5 Masterverbs on a pulsar1.Pci limit on verb 5 but loads with retry.
Dell dimension 8300
P4 2.8 With ht.
2 gb ocz platinum ddr ram @ 2.5:3:2:5
Intel 875P chipset.
Nvidia 6600 with 256 mb Agp.
The pulsar is on irq 22 not shared with anything.
I hope the s/tdm cable arrives soon so i can finally plug the pulsar2 in..
Oh and i have 5 Blocks left on the dsp meter:P
Dell dimension 8300
P4 2.8 With ht.
2 gb ocz platinum ddr ram @ 2.5:3:2:5
Intel 875P chipset.
Nvidia 6600 with 256 mb Agp.
The pulsar is on irq 22 not shared with anything.
I hope the s/tdm cable arrives soon so i can finally plug the pulsar2 in..
Oh and i have 5 Blocks left on the dsp meter:P
Something has happened to my system. I could need some help in figuring out what's up.voidar wrote:Upgraded my system with a Scope Pro. I now have 27 DSPvoidar wrote:Ok, an update. I can load 17 Masterverbs on this system in 44.1KHz now, lowest ULLI.voidar wrote:Asus P4P800 SE
P4 3.0GHz
2 GB RAM
Pulsar 2 classic + Pulsar 2 XTC = 12 DSP
.. running on 1 STDM-cable.
I get DSP capacity limit on loading the 17th M.verb, which is what you expecet when reading of the DSP meter.
The DSP meter is actually peaking, showing last LED as red. The 18th Materverb thus gives me a "DSP limit reached" error.
I did a lot of cleaning up. Also set highest PCI setting for both cards in DoubleDawg.
I also re-set the STDM cable, hooking the cards up with socket 1 and 3..
I finally get PCI limit at 19th Msterverb instance.
I can also load 5 STW P100 vers without problems.
Also the system feels faster somewhat running of the Scope hardware.
I can only load 13 Masterverbs now, and only two STW reverbs.
I would suspect a lot having changed. Various software I have installed and removed, but I didn't notice any strange behavour until a week ago. I haven't been doing much music production lately.
Only thing I have by Adobe is Acrobat Reader, though it has probably been updating itself, or at least by my consent.
Care to shed some light on this Neutron?
I guess I'll have to do some clean-up. Though any tips would be wonderful. I really hate reinstalling
Only thing I have by Adobe is Acrobat Reader, though it has probably been updating itself, or at least by my consent.
Care to shed some light on this Neutron?
I guess I'll have to do some clean-up. Though any tips would be wonderful. I really hate reinstalling
Acrobat reader is always looking for updates, and it has an agent that is always running in the background ":lol: speed loader " . it is a horrible slow thing anyways, i would uninstall it and get foxit reader (it is free) which opens PDF files about 10 times faster and does not bog down your browser when you open a PDF.
" . it is a horrible slow thing anyways, i would uninstall it and get foxit reader (it is free) which opens PDF files about 10 times faster and does not bog down your browser when you open a PDF.Ok, I've slaughtered whatever suspect application I could find. I also remember I had automatic updater on for awhile, getting all the new jizz (IE7 etc), which I have now uninstalled.
But to no avail.
Only now I discover this is not a PCI-overflow error at all. This leeds me to wonder whether I've got some hardware failure :/.. But I don't get it, as SFP clearly shows detects 27 chips.
Ideas?
But to no avail.
Only now I discover this is not a PCI-overflow error at all. This leeds me to wonder whether I've got some hardware failure :/.. But I don't get it, as SFP clearly shows detects 27 chips.
Ideas?
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I've tried reseating, but to no avail.
I can use all my DSPs by loading a s**tload of different plugins, but when loading Masteverbs it seem like none of the DSPs on board #2 are touched.
I've found some inspiration in this thread:
http://www.planetz.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... city+limit
To my knowledge I've got three options:
1. Experiment with board id (6+15+6, 6+6+15)
2. Aquire more STDM-cables (ordered)
3. Move plugins to biggest card.
4. Completely deinstall/reinstall of SFP/SDK (SDK might have corrupted my SFP).
I do remember starting to get STDM-connection errors some time back. I suspect this is related to everything else.
I don't know why though as the system was working perfectly. Highly efficient actually.
I can use all my DSPs by loading a s**tload of different plugins, but when loading Masteverbs it seem like none of the DSPs on board #2 are touched.
I've found some inspiration in this thread:
http://www.planetz.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... city+limit
To my knowledge I've got three options:
1. Experiment with board id (6+15+6, 6+6+15)
2. Aquire more STDM-cables (ordered)
3. Move plugins to biggest card.
4. Completely deinstall/reinstall of SFP/SDK (SDK might have corrupted my SFP).
I do remember starting to get STDM-connection errors some time back. I suspect this is related to everything else.
I don't know why though as the system was working perfectly. Highly efficient actually.