Playing With Cubase 4.1

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Playing With Cubase 4.1

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Cubase 4.1 just came out. It is a major upgrade to Cubase 4. It's nice that it is a free upgrade because it sounds way better than 4.0 and it has all new synthesizers and upgraded effects. I made this demo tonight using my old laptop. Not enough memory so it started to choke when I added the effects. I didn't use tons of tracks but none of this was converted to audio until the final export so with 4 synthesizers and several good effects, my computer was at it's limit.

This is all Cubase 4.1 synthesizers and effects. I won't cry so much now if my Creamware stuff gets stolen. Thankfully that is unlikely because I live in a safe place.


Keep in mind there are thousands of sounds. These are a few random sounds I liked right away.
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braincell wrote:This is all Cubase 4.1 synthesizers and effects. I won't cry so much now if my Creamware stuff gets stolen
you must be kidding :-D
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Honestly, the only Creamware synthesizer I own that I really like is the Minimax and the only effect, the SonicTimeworks reverbs and those cost a lot extra over the thousands I already had spent. The mixer sounds better but now I don't know. I will have to retest that. As far as bang for the bucks, Cubase 4.1 wins hands down. If I was starting over, I wouldn't be getting any SonicCore cards probably but I'm going to keep what I have. The modulars make it pretty unique. If I was doing a lot of live playing, the ABS synthesizers would make a lot of sense but again, they sound much better than the standard Scope synthesizers do. It's too bad they made an elite level instead of rolling all the products into Scope. I had spent so much money on this company that I was pissed off that I didn't have many of the premium synthesizers and I'm not about to give them any more when there are better values. The one last thing I may get when I can afford to is the new Flexor modules.
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I'm not familiar with that. What is it?
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That is sad. It works with my Creamware cards though.
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It could depend on which card you have. I was using an early Creamware SRB which totally screwed up my performance and stability. It took me years until I found out that my card was the cause of my frustrations and meanwhile everyone else was loving their Creamware cards.
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I just loaded the same project which I was doing on the laptop into my Creamware computer and it played flawlessly. The laptop is actually faster but didn't handle the sequence well when the effects were added at the end. My conclusion is that Cubase 4.1 requires a lot of RAM. I'll be reposting this in the announcements section under the Cubase 4.1 thread with a list of exactly what plug-ins I used.

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... 117#193117


stardust wrote:Interesting to hear that this ASIO incompatibility is not necessarily a Scope issue for all.
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Yes I'm using the Luna II and a recent Scope card. The Pulsar I and SRB I are in another computer, so it's like I had to buy everything twice :(.
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Just to let you know, on the matter of Cubase4 synths, that they look and sound suspiciously like Virsyn's own synth TERA - I know, cause I've been using Tera for a while now, so it was a mixed feeling to get these synths in C4 (they sound good, but it's like I already had those flavours in Tera)... And now Virsyn are releasing a reverb plug-in that sounds a lot like C4's Roomworks plug-in... I'm seeing double!

Virsyn's instruments are actually very good and worth checking out if you're into VSTis. TERA is a powerful semi-modular multitimbral VSTi, with fx and sequencing built in, and multiple modes of synthesis, a few of which are replicated in C4. It is really fun to use, I even made a whole song in it and it was posted at Virsyn's site... They also build a spectacular resynthesis machine called CUBE and a virtual vocalist called CANTOR, the latter one for sure not being to everyone's taste, but still interesting in its effort. I wish Steinberg would clone those for C4.2 :D

BTW, since I'm on it, Virsyn also makes an FX plug called VTAPE: it's supposed to bring analogue tape-like qualities to the sound, like hiss, saturation, flutter, etc. But one part of this is a Tape delay plug-in, where, If you change tempo, instead of the usual clicking, the sound pitches up or down for a selected time until it reaches the desired tempo. Of course it can all be automated.

It's a tough one to tame, but the sound is quite interesting - ou can try a 10-day/20 hour demo, if you have a syncrosoft key, that is...

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Nice demo, bearing in mind I'm thinking of updating Cubase.

Stupid question but do all the old VST synths from 5.1 work under 4 or 4.1?
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Not sure but DX effects will not work.
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braincell wrote:Not sure but DX effects will not work.
Now that is bad news!
I might stick with 5.1 if that is the case
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I understand that but it comes with all the effects I need plus my older 3rd party VST effects are still working and my NI VSTi are working fine. I used to have more VSTi, but maybe they were in another folder and I never put them back in. The Cubase synths sound better than those do though so I don't think I will mess with those. They make it take longer to load and it already loads slower than I would wish. I'm thankfully not bombing frequently.
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I installed some 3rd party synths. They just have to be in the right folder. It's pretty easy if there is no DRM.
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