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(yamaha CS80)ASB ???
Just a general question....
Who would be interested in the development of an
ASB-CS-8000
(yamaha CS80)
***** plese note this image is just a fake rendering and is only a hypothetical question***** and I apologize to anyone taking offence.
***** plese note this image is just a fake rendering and is only a hypothetical question***** and I apologize to anyone taking offence.
Who would be interested in the development of an
ASB-CS-8000
(yamaha CS80)
***** plese note this image is just a fake rendering and is only a hypothetical question***** and I apologize to anyone taking offence.
***** plese note this image is just a fake rendering and is only a hypothetical question***** and I apologize to anyone taking offence.
Last edited by slammah2012 on Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:30 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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I think that 'blank space' is actually the ribbon controller. The placement in the mock-up is a bit awkward, but a ribbon would be a most welcome performance control, especially if it accurately emulates the behavior of the CS-80 ribbon.Mr Arkadin wrote:I think that blank panel would need some filling up.
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Nice idea, but the ASBs don't seem to be designed to emulate any controllers - the Prodyssey doesn't have PPC (which are very distinctive sounding compared to wheels). The Minimax and Pro-12 had standard wheels so most controllers would have those. i think they would expect the user to have a ribbon controller (i have a Kurzweil Expressionmate that i use to emulate the PPC for instance).gregae wrote:
I think that 'blank space' is actually the ribbon controller. The placement in the mock-up is a bit awkward, but a ribbon would be a most welcome performance control, especially if it accurately emulates the behavior of the CS-80 ribbon.
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How about if it was built like the system 1200...gregae wrote:I think that 'blank space' is actually the ribbon controller. The placement in the mock-up is a bit awkward, but a ribbon would be a most welcome performance control, especially if it accurately emulates the behavior of the CS-80 ribbon.Mr Arkadin wrote:I think that blank panel would need some filling up.
with each panel its own preset (like the upper / lower manual on the b4000 does independently for the drawbars)
and contain this in the upper asb section....
and in the lower section, have all the master performance control stuff like Footage, and ringmod , master brilliance, portamento etc ...which could be stored in its own master performance preset like the b4000 does with the leslie/vibrato/percussion/condition settings(all independent of the drawbar presets)
That is how the memory structure of the origina cs80 is......
2 independent timbre presets, into a master control panel....
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Also keep in mind...... the original CS80 does have a memory panel that actually reduces the entire dual panel to a space smaller than the ASB's currently have....to say there are too many sliders in a small space was defeated back in 1978 when the CS80 originated......now are encoders this small?..... we will see.
I will see If I can drag my CS80 out tonight and take a picture of the asb beside this hidden preset panel......
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Not so true.......remember the drawbars on the b4000 asb...Mr Arkadin wrote:Nice idea, but the ASBs don't seem to be designed to emulate any controllers - the Prodyssey doesn't have PPC (which are very distinctive sounding compared to wheels). The Minimax and Pro-12 had standard wheels so most controllers would have those. i think they would expect the user to have a ribbon controller (i have a Kurzweil Expressionmate that i use to emulate the PPC for instance).gregae wrote:
I think that 'blank space' is actually the ribbon controller. The placement in the mock-up is a bit awkward, but a ribbon would be a most welcome performance control, especially if it accurately emulates the behavior of the CS-80 ribbon.
The B4000 has 9 drawbars...... which are controllers independent of master preset.....Switchable between upper and lower on 2 midi channels or 1 with a split point...
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or a system 3000?slammah2012 wrote:
How about if it was built like the system 1200...
http://www.sequencer.de/pix/creamware/c ... em3000.jpg
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Well they're the sound generating controls, like an Osc knob on a synth. Yes they can be used as performance controllers, but they're not in themself performance controllers as such. The B4000 without drawbars would just be a Klangbox .slammah2012 wrote: Not so true.......remember the drawbars on the b4000 asb...
The B4000 has 9 drawbars...... which are controllers independent of master preset.....Switchable between upper and lower on 2 midi channels or 1 with a split point...
That thing looks like a home-built construction by someone who has some wood-working skills. It's nice, but it's too bad they got cheap and used plywood for the ends instead of using solid wood. And even if solid wood wasn't available, applying a bit of veneer would cover up the exposed edges.piddi wrote:or a system 3000?slammah2012 wrote:
How about if it was built like the system 1200...
http://www.sequencer.de/pix/creamware/c ... em3000.jpg
I'd give 'em an 'A' for the effort, though.
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Here are some Photos of My CS80, and my Prodyssey.....just to show you sises of the original 4 memory panels....gregae wrote:That thing looks like a home-built construction by someone who has some wood-working skills. It's nice, but it's too bad they got cheap and used plywood for the ends instead of using solid wood. And even if solid wood wasn't available, applying a bit of veneer would cover up the exposed edges.piddi wrote:or a system 3000?slammah2012 wrote:
How about if it was built like the system 1200...
http://www.sequencer.de/pix/creamware/c ... em3000.jpg
I'd give 'em an 'A' for the effort, though.
and finally a Mock up ASB version like the system 1200...with the ribbon on the lower edge.....
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Re: (yamaha CS80)ASB ???
Is this one better???slammah2012 wrote:Just a general question....
Who would be interested in the development of an
ASB-CS-8000
(yamaha CS80)
***** plese note this image is just a fake rendering and is only a hypothetical question***** and I apologize to anyone taking offence.
***** plese note this image is just a fake rendering and is only a hypothetical question***** and I apologize to anyone taking offence.
it has seperate presets for panel 1 and 2...just like the original....and a master patch for the performance controlsand footage settings for the 2 sub-presets.......ribbon is on the bottom
Time has No Master.
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