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Tuccos · Post by **Tuccos** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:57 am

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sonolive · Post by **sonolive** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:06 am

HI TUCCOS

i am pretty upset about creamware and i just hope this company dies soon and this cheater name CREAMWARE dissapears from my mind.

you missed the train tuccos ...

creamware is dead ... since 1st of march 2007

it is now SONIC CORE ...

cheers
olive

kylie · Post by **kylie** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:08 am

you forgot to announce your cards in the "Scope Purchasing" forum.
there are still people who believe in the power of those dsps. consider gaining some bucks instead of shreddering

-greetings, markus-

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:01 am

Tuccos wrote:
i am pretty upset about creamware and i just hope this company dies soon

Nicely selfish attitude. Donate your worthless cards to the Mr Arkadin Charity instead. BTW no-one forced you buy 4.5 did they?

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:57 am

Tuccos wrote:well well, it seems that my 2 nice Scope cards will end as fooder for a electro part shredder soon.

If I give you the money for transport and my adress, will you send your cards to me....?
so I will do the shredder for you.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:21 am

sonolive wrote:HI TUCCOS

i am pretty upset about creamware and i just hope this company dies soon and this cheater name CREAMWARE dissapears from my mind.
you missed the train tuccos ...

oops, I never expected to confirm a statement by Olive, but he just hit the nail ...

Tuccos, you're complaining for almost 2 years - enough time to sell your stuff
eBay prices aren't that bad for vintage Scope stuff

cheers, Tom
you might consider to donate the cards for charity...

ppku · Post by **ppku** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:34 am

well, i just need more than LM7 -virtual instrument.

so...i keep scope

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:08 pm

sonolive wrote:creamware is dead ... since 1st of march 2007

it is now SONIC CORE ...

I don't mean to be picky, but I think you mean SonicCore Olive.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:49 pm

I take that back. The new A16u graphics clearly show 'sonic' & 'core' as 2 separate words. My mistake.

Post by **hubird** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:37 pm

even the name is unsure...

hope SC will soon make a real statement (by word, or by a release of something) about the future.
It's almost a year ago now...
Yes I know they are working hard, but something should happen soon.

Sonolive, as representing DAS on Planetz, is doing fine btw.
I just take the opportunity to say so

Sounddesigner · Post by **Sounddesigner** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:58 pm

"Scope is dieing, sadly..."

I don't know about that, i just launched Modular 3 today and it looked very much alive and healthy to me

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wayne · Post by **wayne** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:04 am

.....decay.....everywhere.....what am i to do??

bosone · Post by **bosone** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:24 am

one thing that make me dubious is that if i look at the official price of the italian sonic core dealer, i see that a new LUNA still cost more than 500euro, while a scope is 2000.
damn, with all the other new PCI/USB options, new creamware / SC cards should cost at least a half.
don't forget that it is a technology 5-6 years old. one should expect some breakdown in prices and/or an improve in the DSP power... which did not happen...
let's hope for the best
when i will find a scope srb for 500€ i will for sure buy it...

Post by **garyb** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:42 am

for many consumers, that'll be the thinking. for those who are shown what Scope really is, the price is very low. those other systems DO NOT compare.

FrancisHarmany · Post by **FrancisHarmany** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:07 am

for me, I cant wait to have my 2 new dedicated DAWs! Scope will be so much more alive for me then!!! Not to forget the new mixers which will make things so much easier.

What you are experiencing is not Scope dying....... its more like a rebirth

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:39 am

I haven't used Scope in several months due to the fact that I've been composing pieces with VST synths only so they can be easily played on a laptop for future live gigs. But I have to say, I have not heard any VA synths for VST that come close to the character of CreamWare's. Arturia's CS-80V is pretty good, but the interface is SO hard to use! Their Moog emulations are horrible, too. I haven't tried MiniMonsta. But after using various VST synths, I'm really beginning to miss MiniMax. (I still haven't gotten Pro-12 or Prodyssey yet!) Even some of the older CW synths I'm beginning to long for again.

Scope is NOT dead yet. Just in suspension....

Shayne

Post by **hubird** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:28 am

wayne wrote:.....decay.....everywhere.....what am i to do??

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:36 am

Shayne White wrote:... But I have to say, I have not heard any VA synths for VST that come close to the character of CreamWare's. ...

NI's FM-8 does come very close to Sope's quality, but that's the only one I'm aware of...
Scope still performs extremely well, all it lacks is an optimized workflow under some circumstances - the concept (still) rules unmatched

cheers, Tom

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:18 am

astroman wrote: NI's FM-8 does come very close to Sope's quality, but that's the only one I'm aware of...
Scope still performs extremely well, all it lacks is an optimized workflow under some circumstances - the concept (still) rules unmatched

cheers, Tom

FM8 isn't a VA synth, it's FM. Rapture has excellent sound quality too, but it's not analog.

Shayne

wayne · Post by **wayne** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:35 pm

It's dying ! .......Aaaaaaaaaargghhhhhh

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