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judiefre1
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newbie routing questions

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hi im pretty new to scope and am trying to figure out exactly how to correctly route my tracks in cubase through the scope mixer as i try to do my first mix in scope.i have 2 questions. one can i route my midi tracks? or do i have to export to audio first? second as i route my tracks through my asio2 24bit sources arnt the tracks first filtered through the cubase mixer? and if so does it effect the sound quality? im trying to get the highest quality i can get. thanks
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Post by alfonso »

I will assume a system with one card, called "Scope"
My basic setup with Cubase:

Scope Midi Source---->Seq. Midi Destination

Seq.Midi Source------> Devices loaded in Scope and/or Scope Midi destination (for ext. Midi gear)

Asio Flt 64 Source------->Mixer Inputs (usually I have 6 stereo Asio sources that is the same as 12 mono tracks going to different Mixer tracks, mono or stereo)
I use The 2448 Mixer normally and have its Cntr.Room out to Scope Analog Destination for monitoring.

Asio Flt destination set to 2 inputs (one stereo) ready to receive from the Mixer Mix out for mixdown or from the Scope audio input for recording external gear. I usually use my Scope Pro AES/EBU inputs where an Apogee Mini Me is connected to record mics and guitars.

Routing your Midi tracks...you mean your VSTi's? They are like Audio tracks in cubase. You have to eneble the number of VST outs in Cubase corresponding to the Asio Sources opened in your Scope project. After that you can route the VSTi's to those outs and receive them in Scope through the Asio Source.

First make a Scope project with all the Asio destinations and Sources you'll need, then load Cubase and load the corresponding VST connections. this can be done as you add tracks, configuring them as mono or stereo to your needs.
If you make a mono vst output it will go out from the first available port in the Asio source. After the VST connection is set, you will find it in the track inspector in Cubase to route the track.

I hope it's clear. :)
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Post by judiefre1 »

yeh thanks it clearedup a lot of things for me. but regarding my second question how does it work, do my tracks get filterd through cubase mixer 1st?if yes how do u usallly do a mixdown, like should i turn all the volume knobs in cubase mixer down or all the way up?etc. sorry for the dumb question its just ive never recorded somthing with more than 1 mixer, always just worked in cubase. thanks
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Post by garyb »

some of this was covered in this thread.

it is a good idea to monitor the scope mixer.(run cubase through a scope mixer). don't monitor through cubase, all sources should connect to the scope mixer as though the scope mixer is a piece of hardware, and the sequencer is a hardware multitrack recorder connected to that mixer(which is what it is). if you were to record a mic with that setup, playback would be heard out the monitor section of that mixer and so would the mic. the mic would go out either a channel direct out or a group out to the input jack on the multitrack. scope works exactly the same way. a basic book on recording studio hardware and technique might help a lot......
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Post by Mr Arkadin »

judiefre1 wrote:yeh thanks it clearedup a lot of things for me. but regarding my second question how does it work, do my tracks get filterd through cubase mixer 1st?if yes how do u usallly do a mixdown, like should i turn all the volume knobs in cubase mixer down or all the way up?etc. sorry for the dumb question its just ive never recorded somthing with more than 1 mixer, always just worked in cubase. thanks
Do as gary says. Here's what i do:

1. Forget the Cubase mixer as a mixer, and consider it a recorder and routing or Buss system.

2. From Cubase Buss all your audio to the Scope mixer, thereby bypassing any Cubase summing. To do this in Scope increase the ASIO Source module to say 16 (or however many tracks you're going to use), then you will see in the Cubase mixer that you now have all these extra Buss faders that you have to activate and then you can send each fader to a separate buss from a pulldown menu at the bottom of the fader strip).

3. Take the output of the Scope mixer and feed it to the Analog Dest module in Scope to monitor it.

4. If you want to record the final stereo mix you hear you can use the same mixer stereo output (you can take as many audio outputs from one source in Scope as you like) and feed that to Cubase to record it.

Hope that helps.
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Post by judiefre1 »

thanks everyone for the replys i can start mixing now :)
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