WHO FOOLS WHO

[manu]

WHO FOOLS WHO ?

during 3 full pages ,Hubird changed the way of my PM to fools you

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... c&start=60

Nobody should post personal data without express permission of its owner. Hubird address is immediately deleted because of that. Please, again… discuss it in a private way!
Nestor

About Hubird,DAS and me :



from ME

if i was Eric ,i immedialely talk to my lawyer about a complaint for diffamation

BECAME :

by HUBIRD

in the meantime I got threatened by manu with lawyal actions, via pm.

From ME

If Eric wants to go to lawyer things another time,i'll help him with all my heart, as i did and believe me ,i'm not Eric,i'll put thousand of euros to see you on law and pay for the damage you want to do to DAS/Eric

BECAME

by HUBIRD

He wants to offer Eric 'thousands of euros' to sue me, as he and Eric are very close, bussinesslike as wel as personally (he owns the building which houses the DAS studio).

i would like to have a building in PARIS

Fom ME

OK,i agree with you ,this topic was more talking about lots of big bugs found in 3 Wolf's devices.I proove that with all my test.Maybe you want me to change the subject ?:"What's wrong with Wolf's devices" ? No,i won't do that,but if you really want,i can do it for you.

BECAME :

By HUBIRD

He also keeps on running down on Wolf, in several pms, who is said to make all the same errors regarding phase correlation, and who has 'small knowledge'.
They, manu/eric, 'found a lot of big bugs in three Wolf plugs', and they 'can prove it with tests'.
If I want he will change the subject of this thread to 'What's wrong with Wolf's devices', I have no idea what's behind this move again

FROM HUBIRD WHO WANTED ME TO REMOVE HIS PICTURE

I hope you learned from your thread to not to fool us, as we are too smart to trap into obvious attempts to push certain points of view through our throats, if you get what I mean. ....DAS learnt it the hard way.

For sure , you have lots of good friends here,who are able to kicked me off as you said in your PM only if you decide to ask them to ! nice attitude !
BUT who has decided to spoil again DAS and Eric because i didn't want to remove your picture ? YOU ! THIS IS a very CHILDISH attitude !

You got nervous because i didn't answer you as you wanted.Even BILL3107 pointed this !
DAS was not involved in all my choice and test ! and all those test are good !From DAS, the only one i know is ERIC! BUT You decided to SPOIL THEM AGAIN to make me getting nervous too and do what you wanted me to do ! now,i'm angry ! i give you a good reason to close my account !

But, open your eyes !! who is arguing in your way in this topic ? only the same few members involved in DAS pirating ACT : http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... highlight=
ASTROMAN,MCCY,SHROOMZ,PIDI,HIFIBOOM,ELIAM,FIRUBBI not any more,less than 20 members here ! for sure ! .

HUBIRD you are a manipulator.
You fools PLANETZ from a long time only by JALOUSY with help from your ADMINISTRATOR !

Like Eric, i'm sound engineer and i hate loosers like you who are crying and calling help from his friends by PM to make a PRO being kicked off from a forum.

You hate PRO,that's ok, and PRO hates amateurs ,that's not NEW and true.

But they are everywhere amateurs who wants to learn a lot from PRO !
why do you want them to think PRO don't have to be better than us ?
WE (all true sound engineer) are better than you.That's the reason we are working in big studios and you are playing with your mini mixer and pass all days spoiling a compagny like DAS.

Read again the begining of my topic :

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23308

WHO DECIDED TO CHANGE THE WAY OF MY TOPIC ? SHROOMZ and MCCY,they were sure i was Eric .Few month ago,we already exchange PM about this.

INTERNET is a nice place for wants to fool people,anonyma helps well ,but i you were using your true name like DAS,Eric,Olive...will you act the same ? no !

Eric is right,as soon as a member ask something good about DAS,he is immediately being flammed.

TO NESTOR OR / AND J.COOPER

Wihout insulting a member as HUBIRD did with me ,you can do what HUBIRD WANTS and what you did well to DAS account !

This forum is dying a slow and painful death ! for sure !

Manuel BETMAN ! a DAS's FRIEND !

[next to nothing]

Hi Manuel.

So you make a topic about how Huub is lying, then you go about how i want to ruin DAS and pirate their devices? Before blaming me maybe you should check what i wrote in the DAS threads...


im not against das, I actually was supportive towards them in that thread. im against you and your ignorance, but hey, since youre not one of them thats a totally different case.

Now please disappear.

[H-Rave]

I agree with Stardust.Just go and sue each other and keep it off this forum.

[Nestor]

I don’t know much about this complex matter you are talking about Manu, but I know that everybody needs respect for things to work.

First:
Everybody involved in it, being it true or false, should talk about their problems in a private way, and hopefully, not in the Z forum. There is no need to start a fire here that nobody is concerned about, so please, keep talking about it through mails, phone, or at least through PM till its end.

Second:
Neither John nor I, have a preference towards anybody in Planet Z because this is not a “personal” forum, but a “community” forum. The very nice thing about the Z is exactly that, that it is a community where we all grow together.

Third:
Amateur or PRO, means nothing here… This mingles differences are only good to increase differences between people that love music, which is in fact, the very bottom line of Planet Z. This forum is not about “positions” or “status”, but about enjoying music.

Anyway, even if the existence of amateur and professionals is a reality, what is worth to be a professional in terms of gear and mixing stuff, if you are an amateur as a human being? Which is more important, being a pro in audio but an amateur as a human being, or being a pro human being and amateur at audio? We have never made differences here! You may be surprised to hear about real geniuses that have been in the Z for years, and they have never said: worship me, be at my feet because I am a genius and you have to adore me! These are the cases of John Bowen and Celmo for instance… but they are “simple” people we all respect much, they talk to everybody just like anybody else… because they are pro people!

If this goes on and on, I will personally ask John permission to delete the thread, nobody needs extra-hate in a world which already, a lot of it. It doesn’t matter who is right or who is wrong. Period!

[kensuguro]

heh, rubbish. Everyone should go play some music.
Listen to "make peace" by metheny and mehldau.

[Mr Arkadin]

Shouldn't it be "Who Fools Whom?" as the title, or better yet "Who's Fooling Who?"? Never could get the 'whom' thing tied down.

[hubird]

I might have made this or that translation fault, and I couldn't quote, which I'd preferred of course.
But I don't fool anyone, it's not my style and I don't need it.

Anyway, I won't gonne discuss every word of him here, I'm ready with him.

I wouldn't delete it Nestor, too much honor, it will be down on the list in a few days.

Another thing is that manu has put back the picture of my studio which John had removed from his transparency thread yesterday.
John did that on my request, after manu refused repeatedly to me.

The agreement says you need permission for quoting in general, and I let him know he doesn't have or gets mine.
So now he has uploaded it again, from his own harddisk, as I deleted the picture two days ago from my web domain
.
What should I do Nestor,, bother John again?

[dawman]

Get a lawyer and sue for liable, preferably one named Goldberg, Silverbagel or something along those lines.




Please, this stuff is only fun 4 so long.

We should have a thread for these sport and spiels called Jacked Off Topics.

[garyb]

DELETE.

girls! stop this now!

[John Cooper]

Yes, Manu, I deleted Huub's picture, because you don't have his permission to post it. I'll delete it again.

Huub, I agree with some of Manu's points -- whether you intended to or not (perhaps due to difficult translations, etc), you are DAS-bashing again, and didn't we say you're not going to do this again??

Guys, I just don't give a fuck about your petty arguments, and I don't want to read them, nor does anyone else.

Nestor's words are right-on.

Now, i have to go install the temporary ban mod to the forums. Then Huub and Manu will both have a 1 week ban. There may be others that are involved, but I can't be bothered reading through the thread to find out who.

Let's say this is a cooling off period between you two.

Manu, if you post huub's personal pics again, without permission, you'll be permanently banned. I simply don't care if you think this makes me some kind of conspirator.

Huub, please just stay away from DAS. Refrain from comment. It's not worth it.

What a waste of time and energy...

-John

[dawman]

So It Shall Be Written, So It Shall Be Done.


John Cooper as Yul Brennar emulating Ramsees, in the 1956 epic,..Exodus.

[John Cooper]

Hah!!

[John Cooper]

Ok, the temporary ban mod is implemented, tested and working.
Bans commence today, finish in a week.

Hope these guys enjoy their week away, and go make some music! Come back refreshed, and ready to rejoin the community.

-John

[garyb]

nice.

i remove my delete opinion.

[Gordon Gekko]

pissing in my pants grown men don't seem to ever lose their hidden child personality, and I guess shouldn't in anyway.. we are back to school

hey hubird, where did you put that paper plane I lent ya.. I need it to nag the teacher while you are standing up against the corner. WHAT?? you gave it to manu??

*cabaret voltaire's nag nag nag playing in background*

[H-Rave]

yer reckon,I don't For no apparent reason there are some people you just can't get along with.God know what would happen if they all came face to face, a bloodbath I'd imagine.

[astroman]

in one or two months, or in one or two years it is all history

which is known to be a little bit of itself repeating

...if they all came face to face, a bloodbath I'd imagine.

why ? noone would be watching them...

cheers, Tom