R.I.P. Joe Zawinul
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Nestor
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I have seen this happening for several years already Braincel, you through hard stones onto people and after hitting their heads from the back, you complain when they call you “names”, as you always say… curiously…
What you say in this very thread about others, in fact applies directly, straight, to your way of giving what you call “opinions”, which would be great if they truly were opinions and nothing else, but they are not.
You would really benefit yourself if you were to deeply, sincerely and frankly realize, for once and for good, how egoist you are with people’s likes and dislikes. You are very often speaking in a rough way to your fellows around. I have seen quite a few people calling you “names” as you say, after you through your well known stone onto their heads. Then, you complain… which is very childish from your part.
You are “very often” trying to force people into your way of thinking, into your mixed believes, tastes, likes and dislikes and you complain exactly of what you’re doing.
As I said, you don’t give opinions instated you give crude judgments of people’s lives. Do you realize that you put yourself very often on top of your fellows like being in superior, like if you were much more important as a human being? You are very often in a arrogant position, like if you were much more intelligent, much more capable, mach more cultured than the rest of human beings... Now, after such a long time of observing your writings, I doubt it seriously.
This is so strange and such a dream of your part… Let me tell you that I know many, I mean, “many” people much better than myself; I have had the chance to meet hundreds of wonderful people through the years, and all around the world. I have seen it, and I still am able to see it, fortunately for me... I don’t believe that I am like the others, I KNOW that I am just like any ordinary person because this is the reality. Why don’t you just try to understand this universal principle that we are the same, we have the same value, and put yourself into the real position you have in life, which is to be an “ordinary human being” just like I am, and just as the rest of the fellows around us are? If you were to be a better human being than others, I would be the first at being extremely happy; I would truly feast this fact because good human beings are the most precious of things in the world.
You are the only person in this forum, and in many more that I have pertained or visited, that call the whole humanity “morons” every now and then... How can you dare to call everybody like that? It is clear that a person that very often calls names to others in a massive way like you do, generalizing about the millions that inhabit the earth that you don’t even know, it is in fact, a person with an extremely closed mind, a very pity vision of human nature and a self-centered, egotistical heart.
Don’t you realize that your way of speaking is sharp and bothersome sometimes? Why you have this strange need for war, this need for endless and absolutely useless discussions? Why do you hassle people harming their fillings uselessly? What is going on with you man? Why are you so could and outsider with people’s emotions and ways?
You tell others to go to their psychologist to correct their anger… you really must be kidding… Braincel, think about it, please, I wish you could have a long and wealthy contemplation of your writings in this forum. Have you measured how much you bothered Neil B for instance? Have you had a thought about the “death of his father” and your words in his thread about this sad fact? Do you really think your words where appropriate there? Common Braincel… it is time for you to change this particular way of approaching things and then running away telling others that they are doing what you are exactly doing with them. Please, stop this unpleasant writing pattern you have developed and try to warm a bit your emotions man... you look like a stone, I really feel it in your writings, you are so harsh man... Let’s keep this forum quiet and in peace, no need for fights and endless, useless conversations that are nothing but a self-affirmation of the EGO, which is NOT a good thing! That’s it.
Honestly, and this is what I have to tell you as a final conclusion, after years and years of reading your posts without telling you anything directly, except the day I wrote you a personal message: I don’t think you are entitled to “culture” anybody through “ignorance”. For people to really listen to what you have to say, you should start by respecting them, and respect is the base of any real cultured person. I will never accept a supposedly superior human being trying to cultures the whole of mankind, through blind ignorance. Breincel, with absolute honestly, only through the deepest and blindest “ignorance” can anybody call the whole bunch of human beings morons and keep itself out of the crowd, believing not being one of them…
If you react to this post in a childish way, if you don’t recognize that your ways are wrong… well… I will definitely lose any hope and will personally keep away from your writings… completely. Of course I will not read your posts to punish you or anything like that, because who would care that I don’t read your posts, nobody, not even you of course… I would not read you simply, to protect myself from your harshness and unpleasant writings.
What you say in this very thread about others, in fact applies directly, straight, to your way of giving what you call “opinions”, which would be great if they truly were opinions and nothing else, but they are not.
You would really benefit yourself if you were to deeply, sincerely and frankly realize, for once and for good, how egoist you are with people’s likes and dislikes. You are very often speaking in a rough way to your fellows around. I have seen quite a few people calling you “names” as you say, after you through your well known stone onto their heads. Then, you complain… which is very childish from your part.
You are “very often” trying to force people into your way of thinking, into your mixed believes, tastes, likes and dislikes and you complain exactly of what you’re doing.
As I said, you don’t give opinions instated you give crude judgments of people’s lives. Do you realize that you put yourself very often on top of your fellows like being in superior, like if you were much more important as a human being? You are very often in a arrogant position, like if you were much more intelligent, much more capable, mach more cultured than the rest of human beings... Now, after such a long time of observing your writings, I doubt it seriously.
This is so strange and such a dream of your part… Let me tell you that I know many, I mean, “many” people much better than myself; I have had the chance to meet hundreds of wonderful people through the years, and all around the world. I have seen it, and I still am able to see it, fortunately for me... I don’t believe that I am like the others, I KNOW that I am just like any ordinary person because this is the reality. Why don’t you just try to understand this universal principle that we are the same, we have the same value, and put yourself into the real position you have in life, which is to be an “ordinary human being” just like I am, and just as the rest of the fellows around us are? If you were to be a better human being than others, I would be the first at being extremely happy; I would truly feast this fact because good human beings are the most precious of things in the world.
You are the only person in this forum, and in many more that I have pertained or visited, that call the whole humanity “morons” every now and then... How can you dare to call everybody like that? It is clear that a person that very often calls names to others in a massive way like you do, generalizing about the millions that inhabit the earth that you don’t even know, it is in fact, a person with an extremely closed mind, a very pity vision of human nature and a self-centered, egotistical heart.
Don’t you realize that your way of speaking is sharp and bothersome sometimes? Why you have this strange need for war, this need for endless and absolutely useless discussions? Why do you hassle people harming their fillings uselessly? What is going on with you man? Why are you so could and outsider with people’s emotions and ways?
You tell others to go to their psychologist to correct their anger… you really must be kidding… Braincel, think about it, please, I wish you could have a long and wealthy contemplation of your writings in this forum. Have you measured how much you bothered Neil B for instance? Have you had a thought about the “death of his father” and your words in his thread about this sad fact? Do you really think your words where appropriate there? Common Braincel… it is time for you to change this particular way of approaching things and then running away telling others that they are doing what you are exactly doing with them. Please, stop this unpleasant writing pattern you have developed and try to warm a bit your emotions man... you look like a stone, I really feel it in your writings, you are so harsh man... Let’s keep this forum quiet and in peace, no need for fights and endless, useless conversations that are nothing but a self-affirmation of the EGO, which is NOT a good thing! That’s it.
Honestly, and this is what I have to tell you as a final conclusion, after years and years of reading your posts without telling you anything directly, except the day I wrote you a personal message: I don’t think you are entitled to “culture” anybody through “ignorance”. For people to really listen to what you have to say, you should start by respecting them, and respect is the base of any real cultured person. I will never accept a supposedly superior human being trying to cultures the whole of mankind, through blind ignorance. Breincel, with absolute honestly, only through the deepest and blindest “ignorance” can anybody call the whole bunch of human beings morons and keep itself out of the crowd, believing not being one of them…
If you react to this post in a childish way, if you don’t recognize that your ways are wrong… well… I will definitely lose any hope and will personally keep away from your writings… completely. Of course I will not read your posts to punish you or anything like that, because who would care that I don’t read your posts, nobody, not even you of course… I would not read you simply, to protect myself from your harshness and unpleasant writings.
*MUSIC* The most Powerful Language in the world! *INDEED*
Whoa. Nestor you put a lot of time into that post... obviously you said a lot of things I wanted to say, except I couldn't really be bothered because when I thought about it it's not worth it and it's better to just ignore it. I shouldn't have reacted in the first place, that's the only way to solve these little issues. Anyway maybe something like your post is best in a PM, I think you are a moderator in this forum right?
Personally I wouldn't have cared so much if the comment wasn't so obviously flippant and troll-like. If he gave some kind of real explanation about his opinion I wouldn't have cared at all, and actually would have found it interesting. I'm not naive enough to believe that everyone should like dense, complex fusion like WR.
Apart from anything, I'd love to know what his definition of 'exciting' is, if he thinks WR is 'bland'
Personally I wouldn't have cared so much if the comment wasn't so obviously flippant and troll-like. If he gave some kind of real explanation about his opinion I wouldn't have cared at all, and actually would have found it interesting. I'm not naive enough to believe that everyone should like dense, complex fusion like WR.
Apart from anything, I'd love to know what his definition of 'exciting' is, if he thinks WR is 'bland'
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Nestor
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There is a right time for everything in life and my post comes in, at the right moment. As I said before, years have gone through and I have never said anything to Braincel before, other than with a PM.
I am not really a moderator to the Z forum. Rather somebody who eventually helps John, I have not any rights in that matter other that helping John. Anyway, I have not written this post as a moderator, not even as a Z user, but as a human being.
I am not really a moderator to the Z forum. Rather somebody who eventually helps John, I have not any rights in that matter other that helping John. Anyway, I have not written this post as a moderator, not even as a Z user, but as a human being.
*MUSIC* The most Powerful Language in the world! *INDEED*
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hubird
I didn't know the word 'bland', but my dictionary says 'friendly, affable; sugary.
I saw worse things from Braincell
this is all about social behaviour, how subtle one can be in a in memorial thread.
That is something you should possibly rethink Braincell, if not in this case then maybe in general, regarding Nestor's post (and you know I love you
), but guys, this sin was thin
I saw worse things from Braincell
this is all about social behaviour, how subtle one can be in a in memorial thread.
That is something you should possibly rethink Braincell, if not in this case then maybe in general, regarding Nestor's post (and you know I love you
), but guys, this sin was thin -
Nestor
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Please fellows, don’t change my argument or divert the direction of what I said, don’t put words in my mouth I didn’t say. Read again as many times as needed to understand the points I’m talking about here, and please, try to understand also the deep meaning of it all. The post is obviously not about the thread itself or about the word “bland” at all, I don’t even thought about that. It is about the WAY of treating people through several years, and in countless situations that Braincell has consistently had.
When you cross the line of respect, the line that is between the “you” and the “me” which we all represent to each other, you are willingly giving people the power to talk openly, and this is what I am doing in plain right. It will be not fair to address to the world as you wish, crossing the line of respect, and then expect not to get an answer for it… this is ridiculous. Your freedom finishes where my freedom starts, and my freedom finishes where your freedom start. When you cross the line, you break the social rules of living in a civilization. So, translating it to even more clear words, you Braincell, have given me the plain right to answer, as you have crossed the line of the many… not only mine… And this is “particularly” why I feel such a compelling need to answer here, because there are many crossed lines…
I would never write such a post in a superficial way, so please, understand that I’m talking in a serious way and not kidding or joking around. I feel the absolute need to denounce publicly this abuse of others people’s minds in a clear way. For some of you this may seem to be a trivial fact, I respect that if you think so, but I know people I have been in touch with, from here, from the Z forum, that have been extremely upset for Braincell writings.
Don’t fool yourself Braincell, you have done it for quite a long, long time already... So please, don’t run away from your own facts and words, be sincere to yourself and accept that you through constantly YOUR OWN PROBLEMS onto others around you… I can see by your last answer that nothing touches you; very unfortunately… it is a shame, because good people ALWAYS listen to critics so to grow, learn and mature… but you don’t want to listen to any critics… It is obvious by the way of speaking, by the chosen words, by the repeated answers and behavior through the latest years, that you believe yourself to be very advanced and beyond grasp. I only see a mature “body” only, but with a childish, blind mind within it, your body and your mind are not in accordance to each other in time, you’re answers are children like answers, judgments, not conversations.
I will not fight with you or go through an endless, useless discussion here, most of all as I can see that you have not even heard what I said to you. You are extremely closed within yourself, and don’t even realize you illness. You immediately defend yourself with silly arguments that don’t stand by themselves; you don’t realize that this discussion could be extremely beneficial and helpful to you if you were to understand the meaning of it, if you were to truly be intelligent, as you constantly want us to believe you are.
I feel the strong inner need to point out this hypocrisy of yours, openly and publicly, not against you as a person, of course not, because I think you are somebody with deep psychological problems that don’t truly want to be like this, but that defends himself against the world with a thick personality-helmet. But I am definitely and decidedly against your behavior and your luck of truthfulness. This is something I cannot allow to grow without telling everybody in the forum, that this is not a good way of living our lives. If I say nothing today, I will participate with your offences and your harshness, I would in a way allow it to be “normal”, when it is NOT normal. And I will never again do this. As people say in English language: “enough is enough”. If I were to say nothing, I would participate with this mistakes and I will not do that. I feel the moral responsibility of clearly stating my position, and ask everybody in Planet Z with my best will, to please not build fights of words, endless conversations, competitions to see who’s the smartest one, etc., please, let us stop all this and let go back to the old, good Planet Z of always, where interest are kept where they should be in a Pulsar forum: music technology, music gear and music itself.
Breincell, if you keep being like you are today, being still a relatively young person, I can bet you’re going to become an unbearable unpleasant old man that nobody in the world will like to be with… everybody will run away from you, because being at your side would be like killing once own responsiveness and feelings. You make things extremely unnatural… I have tried to get closer to you, being friendly for a long time, answering you with good words, even when you were harsh or death harsh, but nothing happened, no warmth came out of you..., nothing… For instance, when one of my best friends died you did some comments that were absolutely out of place, comments about the music I posted that were completely inappropriate. I remember that Chris Werner got angry at you, and I immediately said that it was ok, that I understood your answer, but it was not ok, I wanted to be nice, that’s all. In the same way, there are many posts that were entirely out of place Braincell. This music that I composed had not importance at all “musically”, it was just a feeling, nothing else, an improvisation badly done. I wanted to share it as a therapeutic, cathartic something to start healing myself from the pain, that was all. My friend died of a heart attack, so nobody expected it, that’s why it was so hard. But you unfortunately, did not refrain yourself from posting; you had to say something about it that in this moment was completely out of place…, this is so extremely immature…
As you can see Braincell, I am not using insults to talk to you, I tell what I see and know, that’s it. I just would love you to pierce through the BIG THICK BULKY barrier of iron you have created in your chest and let you feel some human feelings in your heart… some sincerity, some truth and reality. I am talking to you in a very serious way, and I know what I’m saying. I really wish you could have a moment in front of your mind mirror and seriously think about it all; seriously thing that is a good thing to recognize our own errors and mistakes! This is essential to anybody that whishes to progress in whatsoever in life! No good human being, no mature man will avoid self-observing himself to see the truth about who he truly is!
My clear impression is that you are running from yourself desperately, something is going on within you that don’t let you get in touch with deeper feelings, and with those that want to approach you, like myself right here, right now.
Brincell, you are in constant emotional denial, and to compensate your void you want to show us something you are not… You want us to believe you are a hard man, a transcended one, the smart kind, capable of smiling in front of anything because you have all the answers, all the responses… How false this is! Do you realize how small we are in front of the universe? We are nothing Braincell, nothing! You know (and I know very well too), that we are not the smart ones, the transcended ones, and the know-it-all learned people we pretend to be! We are in fact small… powerless… full of defects within ourselves, and mortal beings that will soon die, as life is pretty short in fact. Why lying to everybody about ourselves when they all know already, because every single human being has defects within himself, that we are like them? And worst of all, why to lie oneself about who we truly are? You are a prisoner inside yourself, in cry… you suffer and the more you suffer, the more you try to run away from it, and the way you try to run away is becoming hash onto others, showing us all that you are “strong” and “smart”, and that nothing can fragment you because you know life, you know all the answers, and you know all the people, and that’s why you call everybody “moron”, otherwise that would humiliate yourself. Saying that, you are also insulting the whole Z community, as you actually put yourself above every single one in here!
I know that you are a sensitive person within, but for some reason, you have some extreme soul wounds, like if somebody had mortified your mind with something really bad, for a long time. You are holding such a strong resentment or rancor against “something” in particular that I don’t know, but what I do know, is that you are projecting this traumatism onto everybody around you! I bet that in your childhood most probably. Whatever it is, you know it is there… You really need to cure yourself! You need to get back to health. I know it; I know it in such a realistic way. I fill such a confidence in what I’m writing, I know this is true. Open you heart Braincell, to the beautiful things around you, to nature, the space, to people, and let them in, so you start getting out of your dark, lonely inner space. This lonely inner space may be comfortable for the moment, but believe me, it will stop being comfortable sooner or later, and then you will be forced to face up yourself.
I don’t want you any harm or anything like that, it is easy to feel it, pay attention and understand the way I’m taking to you, and you will realize that I in fact, am doing you a favor with this words. I am taking part of my personal time to try to help you out, of your personal prison… I would like to see you happy, laughing with the rest of us, enjoying technology, things we talk about, music, gear, life… But you are always in a depressive state, like ready for denial and anger, yea… you’ll say that you are not an angry person, but I’m talking about a state of mind you are in, not explosions and broken tables, I’m talking about this hidden frustration and rancor you hold so fondly. I don’t want to be your adversary. In fact, I will never give anybody here the opportunity of becoming one. I just want you to understand that you are in a big trouble and that you need to solve it for your own good, for you own wellbeing, as well as for the rest of people that surrounds you, even in the Z planet community.
Unfortunately, if you don’t change this way of living, if you keep being incapable of facing up yourself, you’re going to find your own mountain of years of thrown stones in your nearest corner, and it will be too late to undertake the problem, and change, as you will not be able to run away… any more… Nobody will be able to see you behind such a big self-created mountain of stones… and you yourself will not be able to be in touch with anybody else either, because you’re going to be far away from people’s feelings. Think about that please.
It is your life… you can do with it what you want; in the same way I myself can, and actually, do. So, in the meantime, I prefer not to read you anymore as it seems you are not willing to watch yourself in front of the mirror of your life and change your harshness. It seems that you don’t want to discover the real Braincell, which is much better, and much worse than you think. Worst in the bad things that obviously you are not accepting to have within yourself, and better in the good ones that you could discover within yourself if you were to health completely. It seems that you don’t want to know yourself, but rather keep running to nowhere, behind the self-created stone-mountain… It is your choice.
I am open if you want so to talk with you in an “intelligent”, constructive way, through PM, if you were to change your mind. But if you don’t, I wish you good luck and say good bye.
When you cross the line of respect, the line that is between the “you” and the “me” which we all represent to each other, you are willingly giving people the power to talk openly, and this is what I am doing in plain right. It will be not fair to address to the world as you wish, crossing the line of respect, and then expect not to get an answer for it… this is ridiculous. Your freedom finishes where my freedom starts, and my freedom finishes where your freedom start. When you cross the line, you break the social rules of living in a civilization. So, translating it to even more clear words, you Braincell, have given me the plain right to answer, as you have crossed the line of the many… not only mine… And this is “particularly” why I feel such a compelling need to answer here, because there are many crossed lines…
I would never write such a post in a superficial way, so please, understand that I’m talking in a serious way and not kidding or joking around. I feel the absolute need to denounce publicly this abuse of others people’s minds in a clear way. For some of you this may seem to be a trivial fact, I respect that if you think so, but I know people I have been in touch with, from here, from the Z forum, that have been extremely upset for Braincell writings.
Don’t fool yourself Braincell, you have done it for quite a long, long time already... So please, don’t run away from your own facts and words, be sincere to yourself and accept that you through constantly YOUR OWN PROBLEMS onto others around you… I can see by your last answer that nothing touches you; very unfortunately… it is a shame, because good people ALWAYS listen to critics so to grow, learn and mature… but you don’t want to listen to any critics… It is obvious by the way of speaking, by the chosen words, by the repeated answers and behavior through the latest years, that you believe yourself to be very advanced and beyond grasp. I only see a mature “body” only, but with a childish, blind mind within it, your body and your mind are not in accordance to each other in time, you’re answers are children like answers, judgments, not conversations.
I will not fight with you or go through an endless, useless discussion here, most of all as I can see that you have not even heard what I said to you. You are extremely closed within yourself, and don’t even realize you illness. You immediately defend yourself with silly arguments that don’t stand by themselves; you don’t realize that this discussion could be extremely beneficial and helpful to you if you were to understand the meaning of it, if you were to truly be intelligent, as you constantly want us to believe you are.
I feel the strong inner need to point out this hypocrisy of yours, openly and publicly, not against you as a person, of course not, because I think you are somebody with deep psychological problems that don’t truly want to be like this, but that defends himself against the world with a thick personality-helmet. But I am definitely and decidedly against your behavior and your luck of truthfulness. This is something I cannot allow to grow without telling everybody in the forum, that this is not a good way of living our lives. If I say nothing today, I will participate with your offences and your harshness, I would in a way allow it to be “normal”, when it is NOT normal. And I will never again do this. As people say in English language: “enough is enough”. If I were to say nothing, I would participate with this mistakes and I will not do that. I feel the moral responsibility of clearly stating my position, and ask everybody in Planet Z with my best will, to please not build fights of words, endless conversations, competitions to see who’s the smartest one, etc., please, let us stop all this and let go back to the old, good Planet Z of always, where interest are kept where they should be in a Pulsar forum: music technology, music gear and music itself.
Breincell, if you keep being like you are today, being still a relatively young person, I can bet you’re going to become an unbearable unpleasant old man that nobody in the world will like to be with… everybody will run away from you, because being at your side would be like killing once own responsiveness and feelings. You make things extremely unnatural… I have tried to get closer to you, being friendly for a long time, answering you with good words, even when you were harsh or death harsh, but nothing happened, no warmth came out of you..., nothing… For instance, when one of my best friends died you did some comments that were absolutely out of place, comments about the music I posted that were completely inappropriate. I remember that Chris Werner got angry at you, and I immediately said that it was ok, that I understood your answer, but it was not ok, I wanted to be nice, that’s all. In the same way, there are many posts that were entirely out of place Braincell. This music that I composed had not importance at all “musically”, it was just a feeling, nothing else, an improvisation badly done. I wanted to share it as a therapeutic, cathartic something to start healing myself from the pain, that was all. My friend died of a heart attack, so nobody expected it, that’s why it was so hard. But you unfortunately, did not refrain yourself from posting; you had to say something about it that in this moment was completely out of place…, this is so extremely immature…
As you can see Braincell, I am not using insults to talk to you, I tell what I see and know, that’s it. I just would love you to pierce through the BIG THICK BULKY barrier of iron you have created in your chest and let you feel some human feelings in your heart… some sincerity, some truth and reality. I am talking to you in a very serious way, and I know what I’m saying. I really wish you could have a moment in front of your mind mirror and seriously think about it all; seriously thing that is a good thing to recognize our own errors and mistakes! This is essential to anybody that whishes to progress in whatsoever in life! No good human being, no mature man will avoid self-observing himself to see the truth about who he truly is!
My clear impression is that you are running from yourself desperately, something is going on within you that don’t let you get in touch with deeper feelings, and with those that want to approach you, like myself right here, right now.
Brincell, you are in constant emotional denial, and to compensate your void you want to show us something you are not… You want us to believe you are a hard man, a transcended one, the smart kind, capable of smiling in front of anything because you have all the answers, all the responses… How false this is! Do you realize how small we are in front of the universe? We are nothing Braincell, nothing! You know (and I know very well too), that we are not the smart ones, the transcended ones, and the know-it-all learned people we pretend to be! We are in fact small… powerless… full of defects within ourselves, and mortal beings that will soon die, as life is pretty short in fact. Why lying to everybody about ourselves when they all know already, because every single human being has defects within himself, that we are like them? And worst of all, why to lie oneself about who we truly are? You are a prisoner inside yourself, in cry… you suffer and the more you suffer, the more you try to run away from it, and the way you try to run away is becoming hash onto others, showing us all that you are “strong” and “smart”, and that nothing can fragment you because you know life, you know all the answers, and you know all the people, and that’s why you call everybody “moron”, otherwise that would humiliate yourself. Saying that, you are also insulting the whole Z community, as you actually put yourself above every single one in here!
I know that you are a sensitive person within, but for some reason, you have some extreme soul wounds, like if somebody had mortified your mind with something really bad, for a long time. You are holding such a strong resentment or rancor against “something” in particular that I don’t know, but what I do know, is that you are projecting this traumatism onto everybody around you! I bet that in your childhood most probably. Whatever it is, you know it is there… You really need to cure yourself! You need to get back to health. I know it; I know it in such a realistic way. I fill such a confidence in what I’m writing, I know this is true. Open you heart Braincell, to the beautiful things around you, to nature, the space, to people, and let them in, so you start getting out of your dark, lonely inner space. This lonely inner space may be comfortable for the moment, but believe me, it will stop being comfortable sooner or later, and then you will be forced to face up yourself.
I don’t want you any harm or anything like that, it is easy to feel it, pay attention and understand the way I’m taking to you, and you will realize that I in fact, am doing you a favor with this words. I am taking part of my personal time to try to help you out, of your personal prison… I would like to see you happy, laughing with the rest of us, enjoying technology, things we talk about, music, gear, life… But you are always in a depressive state, like ready for denial and anger, yea… you’ll say that you are not an angry person, but I’m talking about a state of mind you are in, not explosions and broken tables, I’m talking about this hidden frustration and rancor you hold so fondly. I don’t want to be your adversary. In fact, I will never give anybody here the opportunity of becoming one. I just want you to understand that you are in a big trouble and that you need to solve it for your own good, for you own wellbeing, as well as for the rest of people that surrounds you, even in the Z planet community.
Unfortunately, if you don’t change this way of living, if you keep being incapable of facing up yourself, you’re going to find your own mountain of years of thrown stones in your nearest corner, and it will be too late to undertake the problem, and change, as you will not be able to run away… any more… Nobody will be able to see you behind such a big self-created mountain of stones… and you yourself will not be able to be in touch with anybody else either, because you’re going to be far away from people’s feelings. Think about that please.
It is your life… you can do with it what you want; in the same way I myself can, and actually, do. So, in the meantime, I prefer not to read you anymore as it seems you are not willing to watch yourself in front of the mirror of your life and change your harshness. It seems that you don’t want to discover the real Braincell, which is much better, and much worse than you think. Worst in the bad things that obviously you are not accepting to have within yourself, and better in the good ones that you could discover within yourself if you were to health completely. It seems that you don’t want to know yourself, but rather keep running to nowhere, behind the self-created stone-mountain… It is your choice.
I am open if you want so to talk with you in an “intelligent”, constructive way, through PM, if you were to change your mind. But if you don’t, I wish you good luck and say good bye.
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Jesus Nestor ........Please dont get up me ,I'm a nice guy sometimes ...honest ...no really ...dont hit me massa . oh look you're right . You're saying the right things ...we gotta get on and deal with each other in a nice and friendly way , and the bottom line I guess is that .... I wish I was good enough to play bass in weather report ...forget being able to play keyboards
I read something in downbeat a long time ago ,it was an interview with a guy who filled in for ray brown once in the oscar peterson trio . They were playing some standard at a million miles an hour and turned to him and said "take a solo " he said I couldn't play that fast ...what could I do? ...I put down my bass and did a tapdance .
I say "I CAN'T EVEN FUCKING TAPDANCE
" it's just not fair is it ?Paul
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This is my last writing to you Braincell:
Very unfortunate for you, that you have not read those sincere and absolutely positive worlds for your life, with such realistic forecast of what is going to happen with you, if you don’t listen to anybody and keep believing yourselves to be the greatest human being of all times! I am in shock about your stubbornness and EXTREME superficiality!!!
You have lost an opportunity, from now and on, things will get inversed for you, regrettably.
Don’t bother writing me, as I have finally decided, reading your last empty and deceptive post, not to read, or write you anymore. I refuse to deal with such an inconsistent human being, depressing myself with those unlawful, discouraging feelings you spread. After the effort of writing you such a long post, you have absolutely defrauded me as a human being, truly, I am so sorry, it is so sad…
Good luck and good bye
Very unfortunate for you, that you have not read those sincere and absolutely positive worlds for your life, with such realistic forecast of what is going to happen with you, if you don’t listen to anybody and keep believing yourselves to be the greatest human being of all times! I am in shock about your stubbornness and EXTREME superficiality!!!
You have lost an opportunity, from now and on, things will get inversed for you, regrettably.
Don’t bother writing me, as I have finally decided, reading your last empty and deceptive post, not to read, or write you anymore. I refuse to deal with such an inconsistent human being, depressing myself with those unlawful, discouraging feelings you spread. After the effort of writing you such a long post, you have absolutely defrauded me as a human being, truly, I am so sorry, it is so sad…
Good luck and good bye
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I am so upset that I am weeping beyond control. Is this a promise or a threat? I heard this once before from you. I hope you follow through this time. If you don't want to write me, I don't care. You are a zero to me.
Nestor wrote:This is my last writing to you Braincell: it is so sad…
Good luck and good bye
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Now there's a trio to see live.
I saw them at Coconut Grove, just North of Miami when I was 18 years old. I was also influenced by Joe Pass, and Oscar. They didn't need a bassist when Joe P. played the guitar. Hell, his curled left thumb did walking bass lines.
This thread went in different directions, and opinions. It's all good. But I was so sad, and now talking about such artists in the R.I.P. Josef Zawinul thread, is turning this into a more reminiscing, and enjoyment of a few masters, that all lovers of this free style of music should appreciate.
I saw them at Coconut Grove, just North of Miami when I was 18 years old. I was also influenced by Joe Pass, and Oscar. They didn't need a bassist when Joe P. played the guitar. Hell, his curled left thumb did walking bass lines.
This thread went in different directions, and opinions. It's all good. But I was so sad, and now talking about such artists in the R.I.P. Josef Zawinul thread, is turning this into a more reminiscing, and enjoyment of a few masters, that all lovers of this free style of music should appreciate.
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I too of course, had gone through the amazing music of Joe Pass, and all the guitarists I’ve played with admired him much.
There is a guitarist in France, in Paris, but I don’t longer remember his name, he has emulated the Pass playing exactly, and plays with the same instruments he did, curiously he is even similar to Joe, those coincidences you know… it looks like a reincarnation that man…
Here’s a nice painting of Joe:
There is a guitarist in France, in Paris, but I don’t longer remember his name, he has emulated the Pass playing exactly, and plays with the same instruments he did, curiously he is even similar to Joe, those coincidences you know… it looks like a reincarnation that man…
Here’s a nice painting of Joe:
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And if we consider the time in which he created such musical phrases when improvising, well… that’s a revolution. Now, you listen to it and the harmony used is what we could call “classic jazz harmony”, but for those times it was a revolution.
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In my town, long years ago, there was a big group of musicians called “the musicians of the centre”, which studied deeply and seriously all the music of Weather Report, they were a group of about 20. I joined some of them and participated in the study of Weather Report. It is kind of a school for us. The drummer would pay close attention to everything the drummer would do, would find written parts, and would put in contact with close people to the great Peter Earskine, and each of us would do something similar, then would form groups around to play their music, analyzing it, etc., it was crazy.
I’m talking about more an less, this period of their playing:
I’m talking about more an less, this period of their playing:
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