R.I.P. Joe Zawinul

Post by **garyb** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:32 am

why? if you use real alternative, there's no spyware or other obnoxiousness...

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Rea ... native.htm

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:10 pm

Brotha' Man Shroomz II, formerly known as Shroomz,
I didn't know you cared for jazz. That's great. It's like Escargot, an aqurred taste. But those early Zawinul years were such a contrast compared to Miles, Weather Report, etc. That's why he stands out, as wherever, and whoever he played with benefited, and vice versa.

I have never mourned a fellow player as much as I mourn him. It's sad to think we will not hear anything new, but we will probably have a tribute from Columbia records pretty soon, if they still have any heart and soul left that is.

Thanks For Your Link,

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:20 pm

Top show as usual from Gilles. Some real nice tunes.. a new Herbie tune featuring Tina Turner (!) at the end...

Back to Zawinul:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6ucVEWbwsWk (amazing footage from a 1971 german tv show, first WR lineup)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2xBJiN6jF7Q
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bj8azVFOHlU
(more early stuff)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DwoKM94SPdU (Sweetnighter era, featuring Alphonso Johnson on bass

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:17 pm

Damn !!!!!
I should search those places more often.

Thank You Brotha'.

Post by **hubird** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:25 am

strange it is, the sound of the horn theme in the first clip (Directions) reminds me so much every now and then to Softmachines 'Third' which I loved so much.
could be the used combination of instruments, maybe also the time spirit, dunno.

I know Miroslav Vitous only from his sample works, a nice surprise to see him in that clip

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:39 am

A few more:

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/se ... 1971_music

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/se ... on-d_music

I listed the videos in my original post in roughly chronological order... it's really amazing to see the progression in WR from the early days when there was still a lot of acoustic instruments used and some of the music verged on free jazz, to the heavy groove stuff done with Alphonso Johnson, maybe getting less groove-based when Jaco joined (that's not to say they weren't still funky). I love virtually everything they did in that period up to the Heavy Weather album, obviously they had some great musicians but Zawinul seemed to direct the vision of the group throughout.

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:48 am

Hub - Miroslav was one of the major bassists in the 70s! He released some nice solo stuff and played on a LOT of records back then.

http://sudo.3.pro.tok2.com/Quest/cards/ ... /menu.html

(this discography doesn't even list one of my favourite albums with Vitous playing bass, 'Earthquake Island' by John Hassell).

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:17 am

I find weather report to be bland.

darkrezin wrote:A few more:

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/se ... 1971_music

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/se ... on-d_music

I listed the videos in my original post in roughly chronological order... it's really amazing to see the progression in WR from the early days when there was still a lot of acoustic instruments used and some of the music verged on free jazz, to the heavy groove stuff done with Alphonso Johnson, maybe getting less groove-based when Jaco joined (that's not to say they weren't still funky). I love virtually everything they did in that period up to the Heavy Weather album, obviously they had some great musicians but Zawinul seemed to direct the vision of the group throughout.

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:54 am

fuck it, not worth it. Must always remember the mantra "do not respond to the silly trolls"

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:10 am

Obviously you never considered the fact that I don't care that you think that nobody cares what I think.

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:24 am

fuck it, not worth it. Must always remember the mantra "do not respond to the silly trolls"

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:33 am

Thanks for the advice!

BY THE WAY... WTF DO YOU THINK YOU SOUND LIKE???

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:10 am

fuck it, not worth it. Must always remember the mantra "do not respond to the silly trolls"

Post by **hubird** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:35 pm

darkrezin wrote:Hub - Miroslav was one of the major bassists in the 70s! He released some nice solo stuff and played on a LOT of records back then.

http://sudo.3.pro.tok2.com/Quest/cards/ ... /menu.html

(this discography doesn't even list one of my favourite albums with Vitous playing bass, 'Earthquake Island' by John Hassell).

didn't know M.M. was that famous befor he got famous

John Hassel? long time ago I heard that name, he's somewhere on my old cassette collection

I don't like fusion, I said that earlier in this thread, but you can't bulli someone of the calibre of Zawinul.
Must say I like the early 'free'jazz stuf a lot more that the famous classic WR stuff, not to say I hate them

nice it also was to see a such young Wayne Shorter, I'm really getting old if I see him that way

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:44 pm

@Jimmy V,

I'm no expert on Jazz, but I really like a lot of what I hear, especially the funkier tunes. I listen to Giles Peterson & find it quite inspirational TBPH.

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:03 pm

Expert at SDK yes, expert at jazz,....... no such thing, pure bliss comes from the ears of the beholder.

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:41 pm

It's always good as a final retort to call someone an insulting name. That makes it clear to all how mature you are. How cowardly to belittle me and then run away.

darkrezin wrote:fuck it, not worth it. Must always remember the mantra "do not respond to the silly trolls"

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:03 am

Keep it up, troll. Troll is not an insulting name, it's simply a description of what you are. If you choose to take it as an insult, then it shows that you know there's a problem with your behaviour.

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:49 am

If someone doesn't have the exact same taste as you, then just accept it. You don't have to take it as a personal attack. You should seek help with your anger issues.

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:00 am

No anger here... just amazement that someone can be so dedicated to spreading unpleasant vibes and taking pleasure from it. Well if it gives you kicks, who am I to tell you to stop.