help - suffering lame "no inspiration" infection

AudioIrony · Post by **AudioIrony** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:19 pm

Ok - haven't posted for a while.
There's a good reason - everything I have tried in the last few months has been total poo.

This is something that I would really like to get "working" - but as it stands . . it's just total crap and has a visible smell. Green and foggy...

I think some strong vocal ideas would lift it . . . but drawing a complete blanc on that front as well . . .

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braincell · Post by **braincell** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:42 pm

This is great. Sounds like Ministry or NIN. I know some people hate them. Vocals with a lot of distortion. I can hear it so clearly in my head. The guitar grabs me.

Lima · Post by **Lima** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:42 pm

Why not to add a female voice singing the lyrics? I imagine a clean voice. I would try to add some samples taken from classical choirs (something like russian choirs) as backing vocals.

btw I like it very much!

bassdude · Post by **bassdude** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:19 am

New bass arriving soon. We'll have a jam and get creative juices flowing

I like this Brett, Sounds real good mate! Great guitar.

wayne · Post by **wayne** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:47 am

Only thing wrong with you B is you think there's something wrong with you

WhatbassyougettinStu?

Counterparts · Post by **Counterparts** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:14 am

That's ace, not smelly at all (or green)

Needs a clean lead sound (melody), either vocals or geetar would work I reckon.

What did you use to get the guitar sound btw?

wayne · Post by **wayne** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:34 am

Looks like you can move ahead with the nadir glue, cobber

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:43 am

...it's not a guitar wall - that's a f*ing bulldozer moving right into my direction...

some great transitions there, maybe a small edge of 'yet undecided' here and there, but I'm also convinced that a 'theme' would make it a great track.
Anything from a poem, speach, rap, melodic tune could work - I'm with Royston than clean would be the most interesting contrast to the hammering sound (and also curious about the guitar fx...)
also great that you left some dynamic space... it's a very good base

cheers, Tom

bassdude · Post by **bassdude** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:57 am

Wayne,
I am so lucky. I sold my stingray 5 a couple of years ago along with a Mesa cab and ADA and amp etc etc (also the majority of my studio gear as well) to be with my wife for special reasons. I was ok with being a bassless bassdude! Then my wife over the last 6 months started asking me What IF questions and then on our wedding day 3 weeks ago she gives me a gift certificate for a Yamaha TRB1005 fretless (I have always wanted a 5 string fretless). She totally blew me away. Gotta wait 7 more weeks before the bass arrives though. I can't wait to start teaching my little 18 mnth old son how to play!

BTW, I read about your trips/gigs with great interest mate. Keep up the posts ok!

Whoops Sorry Brett! Back OT. 7 weeks and we'll have a jam

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:08 am

amazing, Stuart - congrats to the luckylucky couple ...trio

AudioIrony · Post by **AudioIrony** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:37 pm

Thanks for all the positive comments. Gives me the kick I needed to go further with it.
For those wanting to know about the guitars (fx).
All tracks are heavily effected (post) in one way or another - not least of all extra digital-type distortion with loads of compression.
I didn't use GAM at all this time - I used Apple's Garage Band to record the guitars initially - using their Amp simulations.
I used the Gretsch for the main guitar stabs and my home made guitar for the sustained riff.
Both guitars tuned using "drop D"
Sustained riff was created using an octaver-like effect by doubling with an extremely distorted bass VSTi (4Front Bass module).
Once I got the tracks into Cubase - I just played with Quadrafuzz , heavy compression and gating.
That's really it - the rest was EQ and reverb / delay - nothing out of the ordinary.
In truth I was just trying to emulate "that" type of distortion effect heard on any NIN CD. Not something I could ever come close to in a live setting.
Regards

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:52 pm

wayne wrote:Only thing wrong with you B is you think there's something wrong with you

WhatbassyougettinStu?

agreed,

this sounds pretty good....

You may just need a little distance to sound/music in general.
there`s some point, if you run over it. Everything sucks... no matter if good or bad...
Do something completly other than music making for some time...
do a bungee jump or something like that....

and have a break for a period of time...

btw, do you mix in cubase or scope...?

AudioIrony · Post by **AudioIrony** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:10 pm

hifiboom wrote:
wayne wrote:Only thing wrong with you B is you think there's something wrong with you

WhatbassyougettinStu?
agreed,

this sounds pretty good....

You may just need a little distance to sound/music in general.
there`s some point, if you run over it. Everything sucks... no matter if good or bad...
Do something completly other than music making for some time...
do a bungee jump or something like that....
and have a break for a period of time...

btw, do you mix in cubase or scope...?

Good advice from both - wallowing in destructive moods is pretty pointless.

I've been working more in Cubase now than in Scope - being on a Mac kinda leads me in that workflow these days.
I have really only been using Scope for the last year for recording guitars and odds and ends.

wayne · Post by **wayne** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:48 pm

bassdude wrote: she gives me a gift certificate for a Yamaha TRB1005 fretless

That's one helluva woman

Post by **hubird** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:54 pm

(the mix) nothing wrong with it even, it's streight laid out.
I definitely would give the drums a better sound, the snare is tame this way.
Cut the stereo maker, make it dry-front with a very little small romm verb, give it pressure without making it necessaryly much louder.
If less loud yet present wanted, then add some Attacker, works wonderfull

AudioIrony · Post by **AudioIrony** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:27 pm

wayne wrote:
bassdude wrote: she gives me a gift certificate for a Yamaha TRB1005 fretless
That's one helluva woman

Helluva bass - bet you won't sleep well for 7 weeks !!!!

AudioIrony · Post by **AudioIrony** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:34 pm

hubird wrote:(the mix) nothing wrong with it even, it's streight laid out.
I definitely would give the drums a better sound, the snare is tame this way.
Cut the stereo maker, make it dry-front with a very little small romm verb, give it pressure without making it necessaryly much louder.
If less loud yet present wanted, then add some Attacker, works wonderfull

Ahhh yes - the drums . . .hmm
I'm going to have to bounce the snare and treat it that way - using BFD demo - no separate outs. Or I might just replace the main hits with another snare sound.

BTW do you mean right the way through - including loops or just when the large guitars (and BFD) come in?

bassdude · Post by **bassdude** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:24 pm

AudioIrony wrote:
wayne wrote:
That's one helluva woman

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Helluva bass - bet you won't sleep well for 7 weeks !!!!

Yep and No Chance!!

And that pic is the exact one I'm getting tranlucent black.

actually brett I would like to catch up with you sometime to have a look at how you use the BFD demo?

AudioIrony · Post by **AudioIrony** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:23 am

Sure thing Stuart - we will have to make a day and time.
PM me

bassdude · Post by **bassdude** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:33 am

Will do.

Oh and thanks Astro for the congrats.

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help - suffering lame "no inspiration" infection