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astroman wrote: must be me - though I can't remember to have ever tried the teacher role :D
Eric I have sold LabView systems 20 years ago and have programmed anything from medical imaging up to stylish accounting systems and Oracle databases.
I know enough about SDK's internals to write my own, should I ever need to... :P
now that was a little big mouthed - I lack the time, but not the facts... ;)
tom,
no,you are not alone here who wants to give lessons to others :wink:
respect for your work on labview.20 years ago i was recording the singer of the group "eagles" hotel california...
so,i can understand that you wanted only to be friendly with us by opening our REALLY PROTECTED devices ( they were not open SPACEF ),by removing the protection module , by trying them ,and after delete them...it's really impossible to believe it ,but i will make an effort...ok,i admit this point.

but,what i really don't understand,if you know enough about sdk to write one,why don't you help your 2 friends,shroomz and mccyrano to make something else as only very nivce beta bugged versions...?
dsp placement,level,0fs,phase cancellation,phase rotation,are so simple for olive and me that i don't understand...excuse me tom :wink:

peace,

eric
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mán...should we talk on this childish level?

I'm just reading the posts of today and dammit, nothing has changed.

Also in the announcements forum we are called worms again, only 12 hours after the socalled peace proposel (which for sure was written by someone else).
He really thinks that that thread was about him, where as it is about Creamware and Frankfurter Messe :roll:
If someone thinks we can make a 'deal' with eric, he's wrong.
before you know it's exactly the same and we are worms again.

Imagine if I would call repeatedly one of our members or John a WORM - I would have been banned.
A 3rd party develloper is calling us a WORM.
John, we are worms.
Worms.
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as i said before, worms are needed to dig over and loosen the ground... :D it's not all negative ;)

may the force be with you...
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YO! let's cross to the announcements forum, Frank Hund did THE announcement!
Beye beye Eric, we have important things to do! In the meanwhile, take it easy, I know where to find EMT!
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yes hubird !

a member who steal a devices from a develloper is a worm.

why don't you cry it to emt baby ? maybe they will listen you :lol:
come on..my favourite worm...and stop crying in every forum like " john,you see.. piddi,you see...he call us as worm..

i assume all i say without paranoia...
hubird wrote: Eric, what we are talking about in this thread has nothing to do with the conflict and is simply not related to you, your friend or your bussiness.
Again, get you a PR guy, you make serious faults here.
i was talking about the members who have opened my devices...
you are very good to make polemics but you are not able to understand my post..maybe my french touch is too much for a small brain like yours.

friendly,

eric
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hubird wrote:YO! let's cross to the announcements forum, Frank Hund did THE announcement!
Beye beye Eric, we have important things to do! In the meanwhile, take it easy, I know where to find EMT!
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hubird wrote:YO! let's cross to the announcements forum, Frank Hund did THE announcement!
Beye beye Eric, we have important things to do! In the meanwhile, take it easy, I know where to find EMT!
hubird wrote:any news would have been good news, this news is even better
congrats to you and to us!

why don't you learn them how to remove a protection module in dynatube ? hypochrite worm.i can't believe how you are ...what a pity ...

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digitalaudiosoft wrote:...but,what i really don't understand,if you know enough about sdk to write one,why don't you help your 2 friends,shroomz and mccyrano to make something else as only very nivce beta bugged versions...?
dsp placement,level,0fs,phase cancellation,phase rotation,are so simple for olive and me that i don't understand...excuse me tom :wink:
peace,
eric
didn't I mention a lack the time in the post above ? ;)
and didn't I post frequently that the buyer's motivation on this platform (not the bla,bla - the real thing with cash and so), is on such a ridiculuous level that I don't want to mess with it.
I was about to aquire a DP once... but gave up the idea when someone told me his sales figures - I was shocked, to say the least.

You will find lots of posts by me where I diss the 'community' for not buying more stuff - if you search in the past.

you will also find posts where I write if someone cannot figure out this or that in DP or SDK, then he or she simply doesn't qualify as a developer.
Call it arrogant, but I cannot remember a single case where I didn't have to figure out things myself - I've definetely spent more hours in front of the screen than in bed the last 15 years - it's a part of the job.

is it enough if I tell you that SFP is an in-circuit emulator that uploads it's stuff to the DSPs at a certain point in time ? of course that was just a plain guess :D

cheers, Tom
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Post by katano »

hey astro

you may could come over to lovely switzerland and give me some lessons :D i have the sdk for a year now and opened it only twice ;-)

cheers
roman
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digitalaudiosoft wrote: so,i can understand that you wanted only to be friendly with us by opening our REALLY PROTECTED devices ( they were not open SPACEF ),by removing the protection module , by trying them ,and after delete them...it's really impossible to believe it ,but i will make an effort...ok,i admit this point.
Eric, having been on the side of this discussion, I feel like suggesting an alternative way of seeing things. I may ofcoarse be wrong, but I will explain later, why this is my asumption.

1) Tom heard a rumour.
2) Tom had two choices:
2a) He could pass it on imidiately. If it was only a rumour, he might cause you a lot of unneeded stress.
2b) He could check it out first, and then delete the stuff, if it worked.

I think Tom did 2b. Here is why I don't believe that Tom keep your modified software:

1) Tom has repeatedly refered to a lot of developpers who's devices he has purchased. Noone said he was lying. Therefor it makes good sense, that Tom pays for his stuff.
2) People do not always steal just because they can.
2a) I have passed by many things in my life, wich I could take unnoticed. But I did not.
2b) A lot of people are like that. Here is an example. I once forgot the keys to my bicykle (and to my appartment) in the bike at the railway station in the forth biggest city in Denmark. Some days later I got back and found my keys still in the bicykle.
2c) About software. It is shit easy to get pirated software. I never used one single piece of that. I have however spend hours and hours installing crappy and buggy free-ware software on my PCs just to check out, if they could do the one thing I needed them to do, the one time I needed them to do it.

Just to repeat my point. Being able to steal does not make a person a thief. Having a t-shirt in your hand from the hangers outside a shop does not make you a thief. Yes, you hold it, but you have not decided, if you want to buy it, if you want to put it back, or if you want to steal it.

Oh, and ... if I wanted to steal software, I wouldn't tell the developper how to prevent me from doing it. Tom told you this. Why should he, if it was not in good intensions. Give me one good reason. Again, if he really wanted to steal your stuff, he would be pretty dumb to tell you about the security issue in your software.
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hubird wrote:
One thing I'd like to say btw.
You thought you had to correct me on these two points (see the Devices forum):
1. ..., instead of seeing this rant spread over everything DAS ever types.
2. ...it should be possible for you guys to sort this issue out internally...

Both points I was able to disprove with documentation (protest by me against the spreading, and my private email to Olive).
I really don't mind if you vent some aversion against my forum acting, but then give me also the credits if you was mainly wrong.
Does that sound unreasonable?

best regards to you :-)
ello :)

first of all hubird, id like to point out that these two points is not only intended for you, but to everybody that jumps on the train and start throwing comments that really doesnt help anybody.

Im a reasonable fellow, so of course i give respect where respect is deserved :)

just a couple of comments to the two points you addressed:
1. When it comes to user forums, i like to keep things tidy :) if i want to follow an announcement (like if i want to see how DAS progress with their EMT story), id expect the thread to reflect the current topic. If they announce a new device, id like to read about the device, not what happened to a device released half a year ago and accusations regarding an old and boring subject, and certainly not 3 pages of it. if i wanted to follow these accusations id rather have a place in the off topic called "THE DAS THREAD" or something. at the moment i think every subdivision of this forum EXCEPT the off topic section has these arguments going.

2. I admit i was totally wrong there it seems, which i think is a real shame.

Another point, with todays EU laws im not offended by being called a pirate. almost everybody IS ACTUALLY A PIRATE by these definitions. If a guy in these forums calls me a pirate id say "hell yeah" and smoke a fat one. This is me though, and im not everyody else. Maybe 5 years as a bouncer has made me overly tolerant and objective.

i WOULD feel offended if someone accused me of worse things though, of course i would. Like if someone said my device was a blueprint copy of theirs, and i was sure it wasnt, id go to great strengths to clean my name. But i guess i would use other channels than 45 different threads. Id make one topic where this issue could be discussed, and if people wanted to follow the issue, they'd know where to find it. Right now i cant even remember where i posted what regarding this one issue (maybe its the "cigarettes" though, in that case im sorry to blame others. :) )

Back to the "delete posts issue", i see your rethoric regarding history, which actually sounds a lot like mine regarding the israel thread. thats what i find kind of ironic :) As i hinted to in my previous post i am also against this method, but i (still) find it difficult to understand your viewpoint. its not a major issue tho, id still share a spliff with you when i go to Amster.

AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!

or not.

DAS, i will just like to point out that i am in no way affilliated with this website, neither am i a moderator. i just want to point that out because i didnt understand this sentence: "and stop crying in every forum like "have you seen john,have you seen piddi...) "

Neither does it help you to continue to call people names after the "peace offering" you posted ealier in this thread. My suggestion; if you really want the help of people to delete threads you need to earn it. I know a lot of people has called you a lot of shitty things, as you also have in the opposite direction. If you want a clean start, act accordingly!

Holy shit this is the longest post i ever wrote on a forum i guess. sorry for spamming. live long and prosper!
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@ immanuel

just some chronology :

as garyb says and astroman too, this way to open a device is not a real news...
ok...
as you,i can believe tom is sincere,but i have difficulties to understand why he has sent us his friendly pm only at the end of december 2006,after number of non friendly attacks on our product and on me...and,of course, just after i have mailed shroomz and mcyrano to inform them that creamware knows their names (true names ,not only planetz pseudo ) and knows about this way to open devices...

martin had remove all his devices on november and uploaded new version.why ?

as a "parano" :-) ,i'm always verifying all things when people have strange attitude...and all their attacks were so strange...

just before this djmicron mail,martin derknott had decided to make peace,he had deleted some of all malicious topics and post...he make public apologize too... why ? only to make me happy for new year ?

now, we ,you all,know what was strange !...

what i really don't understand is the reason why,nobody here take position against this...i find this attitude very "lâche" in french...conpiracy of silence.

yesterday , i really wanted to make peace and wanted to stop a procedure...but,instead of stopping their post about me,they have written again and again...

eric
@ piddi...i'm tired to be insulted as parano..so let me write worm about members who have opened my devices... :wink:
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...but i have difficulties to understand why he has sent us his friendly pm only at the end of december 2006...
this is wrong Eric, Olive didn't get the note end of December, it was new years day and I thought this 'knowledge' might be something I could trade for confidence that I had nothing against your company, so 2007 could start under better conditions regarding network communication. It was a spontaneous idea.

Under regular conditions I would have never informed you - because of your previous offences towards me - why should I care about someone's business who calls me an unemployed wanna-be who cannot afford a single plugin ?

I don't make the same drama of it as you do, but I don't like it to be called names.
You seem to have a real language problem, as I only made compliments about Corse and the text you wrote - there was no hidden irony or sarcasm.

cheers, Tom
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so,to the few members who are concerned...

i will propose you/us a second chance to make peace with mark,simon and martin and friends.

if you want to stop all this story from now,pm me instead or flaming me again and again and we will find a solution to erase all,maybe with the help of
j.cooper.

we can propose one list of the malicious topics and malicious post we want to erase as the famous israel topic from shroomz...
tom,would you like to accept to be a "mediator" ? in french is a person who is able to talk with both part to find a solution.
can you do something with hubird,eliam,drakesin,mr arkadin and some few others... ?sending pm to us to explain clearly my position about peace...

i'm against all kind of censure,so,as i have written yesterday,i want to erase only all malicious post and malicious topics,not only yours and keep mine as they are,but all ! even mine !

the annoucement had to stay clean as creamware do,spacef,insdp,wolf.,flexor..all of us have the right to post an annoucement without beeing spamed.

if you want to flame me or write something else,like yesterday after this last proposition,i will never do it again.and i repeat it : i will leave this forum and let olive post.

eric
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I won't delete anything by myself.

Two reasons:

1. If you want peace, I find it strange that you wanne exchange it against deleting a lot of our history.
you want peace or you don't.
Peace comes from your heart.
You are asking a price along it.
I don't pay for peace, and I don't like to violence planetz history.
I don't owe you anything, you as represent of DAS needs us.
So pay you a price, namely just behaving like a normal and friendly member.
Then you will see what a friendly community we are.

2. After your first proposel you started calling names again in hours.
Now you come with the same proposel.
When the planetz history is deleted, there's no way back for us.
It has gone forever.
You showed that you can't be trusted, why would you stay respectfull tonight, tomorrow, next week?
If I start telling us that I don't like this or that of one of your plugs, the war starts again, as you can't handle intelligent critisism.

Man how frustrated would I feel if all stuff has been deleted and you start screaming again, I'm sorry.

Sorry Eric, you chain 'peace' so-o hard at the wish to delete old threads that I can't trust it.
Peace is something you have to show, you can't buy it.
Not from me at least.
cheers

EDIT:

Eric, ask yourself exactly this:
'would I still wanne act in peace on planetz if the folks of Planetz would prefer to not delete old threads...
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ok....i will wait astroman decision ,he is a litlle less stupid and less mythoman than you.

your only problem with me ,is that i'm the only one who is not affraid of you little worm !
and ,as you have never posted something interesting here,your game is to flame me or someone else !it was shroomz ,now it's me ,and tomorrow ? piddi ? tgstgs ?

astroman,can you take the good decision ?

peace or not peace ?

peace = i leave this forum

what you don't understand is that i have only one honnor,and i will never let worms spoil me like you do ,even if i have to be banied as you want to and search to !
if i say i leave this forum , you will never seen me here !

friendly,

eric
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thank you Eric, I got the answers on my questions.



peace or not peace ?

peace = i leave this forum
disgusting really.
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hubird wrote:


peace or not peace ?

peace = i leave this forum
disgusting really.
If you put 2+2 together more often you might consider it a typo.
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hm, enlighten me if there's more Piddi :-D
While offering 'peace' he's naming me a worm already :lol:

As I read it, it says:
guys, I offer you to leave planetz' and therefor offer you peace, but I want something back...namely deleting all DAS thread'.
So, you could even call it kinda blackmailing.
With peace it has nothing to do.
I hope you can agree on that :-)

I think that Eric will leave the forums anyway, as DAS has taken that decision already, in cooperation with bussiness collegues of them (I don't name names).
He just tries to pull the most possible out of it, it's a solo action without Olive hanging around.
It's an act of a 'desperado', if you ask me.

cheers :-)
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piddi wrote:, but i (still) find it difficult to understand your viewpoint. its not a major issue tho, id still share a spliff with you when i go to Amster.
I admit everything you wanted me to :-D
Name time and place! :lol:
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