BCF2000 & STM mixer question

manfriday · Post by **manfriday** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:54 am

I know that folks have talked about getting the BCF2000 working with the scope mixers in the past. I spent quite a while looking around on the forums for answers, and I suspect I know the answer already.. But I am hoping someone can tell me I am wrong..

I got the faders working both ways using a snapshot for each bank of 8 channels..
It works ok. However, trying to load the project back up hoses things up..
Only the active snapshot on the BCF is updated, which makes sense.

I guess what I am asking is: has anyone else come up with a creative solution for this problem?

valis · Post by **valis** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:38 pm

By snapshot I'm guessing you mean preset? The reason only the active preset on the BCF is updated is because only one is active at a time, it isn't the same as scene recall. There are commands for send all controllers & receive all though.

Also, are you using it in one of the emulated modes (mackie) or just in normal midi mode?

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:38 pm

Yepp. Read the thread in Announcements on the DAS Modular Mixer. It was designed for it's use. They would be happy to build a custom version 4 you. I use it live w/ 5 x wireless Sennheisers, and 5 x wireless UE Pro 10's. The Behringer is a perfect match. They are currently working on a touchscreen LCD mixer which is the future IMHO.

manfriday · Post by **manfriday** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:37 pm

By snapshot I'm guessing you mean preset?

Yes, that is what I meant. Sorry 'bout that.

There are commands for send all controllers & receive all though.

ON the scope side or the BCF side? Maybe I need to re-read the manual for programming the BCF.

Also, are you using it in one of the emulated modes (mackie) or just in normal midi mode?

Right now, I am just using normal MIDI mode. I thought about experimenting with the mackie mode and a device i saw refernece to that willconvert pitch bend data to CC data. Im not sure if that route would get me any closer or not..

Read the thread in Announcements on the DAS Modular Mixer. It was designed for it's use. They would be happy to build a custom version 4 you.

Hmmm.. I am guessing a custom made "manfriday" mixer may be a touch expensive.

thanks guys!

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:40 am

PS. You should really put this in the General Discussion forum next time as this isn't really a tip or a trick is it?

manfriday · Post by **manfriday** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:16 am

well, Im looking for tips and tricks!

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:26 am

This forum is to post YOUR tips and tricks, otherwise it would be full of questions now wouldn't it?

Have a look around, do you see any other questions..?

manfriday · Post by **manfriday** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:32 am

yeah yea.. my mistake. sorry.

manfriday · Post by **manfriday** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:17 pm

There are commands for send all controllers & receive all though.

I found the command in the BCF to 'request all data', but it appears the scope mixers do not respond to it...
Am I doing something wrong, or do the mixers not respond to the request by design (or lack of design as the case may be..)

Any other creative ideas for controlling more than 8 faders with a single BCF?

Someone had mentioned that they wrote a little java app to assist them with their tascam controller and the scope mixer..
Maybe I should dust off the c++ books and figure out how to program a midi app.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:41 pm

Maybe you should.

valis · Post by **valis** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:43 pm

Probably you're going to have to stick something between Scope & your BCF driver to keep the bidirectional info 'cached' and provide the midi hooks to feed the data both ways. If you really wanted to get down & dirty, there are some people who have worked with the Mackie/Logic control or even the HUI emulation implementation on BCF so you might consider using it in that mode and having your app convert to cc data and keep track of what devices you're switching to when you page back & forth, since it seems that's really what you want. The Mackie Control OS in the BCF would then take care of keeping the controllers updated for you.

manfriday · Post by **manfriday** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:35 pm

right on. I will have to take a look in that direction then.
Thanks guys.