Sound Card Dest module (Desperate for help!)

w_ellis · Post by **w_ellis** » Mon Feb 04, 2002 11:07 am

Hi,

I use a Yamaha DS2416 with my Powersampler card running Luna II software at version 2.5 and Cubase VST24 3.7. Does anyone know how to route audio between the Powersampler and DSP Factory. I don't seem to be able to get the Sound Card Dest modules for the DS2416 to work in the Luna application. I am vaguely considering buying ADAT interfaces for both cards, but I'd much rather avoid this, as it will probably set me back about £300.

I'd ideally like to route the 8 individual outs of the STS3000 to 8 ASIO channels and perhaps have 4-6 more ASIO channels for other Luna plug-in synths. Then I want to route 16 VST Master channels to the first 16 channels in the DS2416. I can get the audio to reach the VST Master busses I have set up, but I can't get it to go from there to the DS2416. I can route it from the busses to the PS Analogue output.

Cheers,
Will

P.S. I posted this message a while back and got no response. If anyone at all is using Sound Card Dest modules, please could you let me know, as I'm on the verge of giving up and selling my DSP Factory if I can't find an answer.

P.P.S. Creamware say speak to Yamaha, who say speak to Creamware, who then say speak to Steinberg!!!

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Mon Feb 04, 2002 12:07 pm

I never got the soundcard dests to work back in the day when I was trying to get SBlives and other SBs working alongside my CW stuff. Never got a sound from it; the manual is very light in this area, and from what I gather, if these work, use em, otherwise, don't bother.

DSP factory can work well with a Pulsar card, if you have the ADAT expansion for your DSP factory, wire them up via ADAT, you can then do mixing/dynamics on the DSP factory, offloading some DSP load from your Pulsar, etc. Otherwise, you're right, just sell it or put it in a spare computer (DSP factory doesn't need much).

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Mon Feb 04, 2002 12:08 pm

BTW you will want to score the DSP factory ADAT connector used to get a much better price, should about $150 or less used somewhere.

w_ellis · Post by **w_ellis** » Mon Feb 04, 2002 3:46 pm

Thanks for the prompt reply. One option I was thinking of going for was buying a Pulsar I or II to go with my Luna and get a ADAT card for the DSP Factory. Are there any inherent differences I should be aware of between the Pulsar I and II, or is it merely a different number of DSPs? I'm not hugely fussed about quality of A/D as I will have the inputs from the Luna and the Yamaha.

One further thing I was interested in was the latency of using ADAT across to the DSP Factory. Will this add anything noticeable to the standard ASIO latency? I am currently running through ASIO in Cubase, but am not particularly bothered if I have to only do this when I actually want to use FX in Cubase, which may be rarely, given the quality of the free effects for Luna/Pulsar.

Cheers,
Will

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Tue Feb 05, 2002 9:02 am

There should be zero latency with an ADAT connection, so that shouldn't be a problem at all. The differences between Pulsar 1 & Pulsar 2 are, Pulsar1 has 4 DSPs, and 13ms ASIO latency minimum, 1 STDM connector. Pulsar2 has 6 DSPs, ULLI interface down to 1ms@96khz, and 2 STDM connectors. Pulsar2 SPDIF can work in a SPDIF loop, Pulsar1 SPDIF can only as Master. The I/Os are the same if not identical. Pulsar2 cards also generally come with ProPack (all new ones do, some used ones might).

w_ellis · Post by **w_ellis** » Tue Feb 05, 2002 10:00 am

Looks like I'd better start saving my pennies then! Where do you recommend looking for second hand gear. Is e-bay my best bet?

On an entirely different note, can you think of any reason why there is no 'Sound Module' type device for Creamware, as I would definitely consider replacing my Roland JV2080 with one if it was available?

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Tue Feb 05, 2002 10:44 am

What, you mean the STS-2000P on the Pulsar (v3) and the included sample CD?

Oh right, you only have Luna. The biggest difference in price is you get basically no software with Luna, a quarter of the I/os, and half the DSPs.. adding a used Pulsar1 (contact me if you need one) would give you all this.

For the Yamaha DSP factory stuff, search ebay regularly, I saw a few these parts sell recently. There is also a Pulsar1 on ebay right now.

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Tue Feb 05, 2002 11:42 am

Soundcard Dest was available up to Pulsar OS 2.04. It might reappear, it might not. I don't know, there's something about that in versionhistory.txt or so.

I succesfully used my AWE64 Soundcard Dest/Source untill I went to Win2k when Pulsar OS 3.0 came out.

w_ellis · Post by **w_ellis** » Sat Feb 09, 2002 5:23 pm

To Subhuman:
I would be interested to know how often you get Pulsars in secondhand and how much they usually cost. I'm keeping my eye on e-bay, but would definitely be interested if you had one to sell.

Re. Sound module discussion, It's more the fact that you have banks of sounds prepared for you that you can flick through which I appreciate about a conventional sound module. I think it's just because I'm a bit lazy when it comes to selecting sounds and like someone to have organised them for me (certainly for 'stock' sounds such as pianos and acoustic basses etc.). I'll probably keep hold of my JV anyway, as it helps with filling out an arrangement.

Cheers,
Will

P.S. If you want to reply privately about secondhand Pulsars, my e-mail is w_ellis@hotmail.com.