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danieldude
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acpi installation

Post by danieldude »

hi... ive read that pulsar works well with acpi xp, how do i know if my xp is set to acpi??

this my irq 16 where pulsar is
IRQ‏ 16 Intel(R) 945G/P PCI Express Root Port - 2771
IRQ‏ 16 NVIDIA GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM)
IRQ‏ 16 Intel(R) 82801GB PCI Express Root Port - 27D0
IRQ‏ 16 Intel(R) 82801GB USB Universal Host Controller - 27CB
IRQ‏ 16 Creamware Pulsar

my computer frezzez when using cubase sx2
is acpi supposed to prevent this?
what do you advice me to do?
thank you all :D
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Post by Counterparts »

If you go to the Device Management dialog (from control panel->admin tools->computer management), then click the '+' sign next to "Computer", you should see something like:

"Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC"

I wouldn't have thought that ACPI would cause Cubase to freeze though. It could be one of many things, e.g. a dodgy VST device.

Have you applied all of the latest Steinberg patches to your version of Cubase? Ditto XP, are you up to date with Service Patches / Security Patches and the like?
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Post by danieldude »

in my computer managment there are only 3 +... system tools,storage and services and app... on top of them it says "computer manage-local"
sorry if i didnt write it good ' im translating it as i go :lol:

thare is no acpi mention.. although the properties of my computer says this bit- intelr awrdacpi- is this it??

thanks
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Post by Counterparts »

danieldude wrote:in my computer managment there are only 3 +... system tools,storage and services and app... on top of them it says "computer manage-local"
Open System Tools by clicking on the '+' sign...then you'll see Device Manager...

BTW, you should certainly not be sharing an IRQ between your graphics card and your Scope cards, they really need to be on different IRQs.

Are you using a PCI- graphics card, or an AGP- one by the way?

Looks like you're also sharing with the USB host too, is USB2 enabled or disabled in the BIOS?
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Post by danieldude »

hey there!!!
well yes ' it says " acpi multyprocessor pc"
and it says ive got 2 of them!!!! (does this mean duel core?)
my card is geforce 6200 tc-and im almost sure its pci.
can i change manually the irq for it....? is it easy or dont even try yourself hard?

there is no smiley to tell you how i feel about this mess!!!!!
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danieldude wrote:hey there!!!
well yes ' it says " acpi multyprocessor pc"
and it says ive got 2 of them!!!! (does this mean duel core?)
Sounds like your computer has a split personality! :-)

Just joking, it's probably just Windows being daft.
my card is geforce 6200 tc-and im almost sure its pci.
To be honest my advice to you in this case is to sack the PCI graphics card and get an AGP graphics card. Your PCI- graphics card is going to be soaking up PCI bandwidth like nobody's business, regardless of the IRQ it's on.
can i change manually the irq for it....? is it easy or dont even try yourself hard?
You can start by trying the scope &/or graphics cards in different PCI slots and also make sure that "Plug & Play OS" in the BIOS is set to 'No' or 'Off'. However, like I said if you've got a PCI graphics card, then this will seriously use up PCI bandwidth.

Please read this article, it explains the matter of IRQ sharing, XP and ACPI very well:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314068/EN-US/

There are also a great many posts on these forums regarding IRQ sharing & ACPI, just use the search facility.
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Post by danieldude »

have i yet sait t h a n k y o u for youre expert replys?

well ' now i do

my stupid mobo has no agp slot!!! only pci express crap-o-zoid

and i think i tried all the combination slots' but ill try again. :roll:

i miss my old computer!!!! but it was chocking after 2 z3ta pluggins and one guitar rig

well it seems like i have some more searching to do- next time ill buy a computer ill ask you.
by the way' ive been adviced to switch to rme cards. is it a good idea?
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it would be a better idea to sack guitar rig instead... :D

honestly, the quality difference between that and even the Scope 'classic' guitar amp/fx emultations (Celmo's - let alone Dynatube...) are by magnitudes larger than the subtle difference between those 2 cards ;)
you can try it yourself with Celmo's free versions (or his demos)
just switch off the 'overused' FX in guitar rig and compare the pure amp and speaker settings...
it's easier that way and more focussed - imho it would be hard for Guitar Rig to compete against the full load of Scope FX anyway.

don't misunderstand this as a diss of Guitar Rig - it's just a very good example about the 'special' sound of Scope.
It's not immediately obvious - I also found the demo of guitar rig pretty impressive - it DOES sound good, no question - and the presets I tested were convincing, too.

but then I did the A/B thing, picking similiar setups from Celmo's Bassamp sim (same engine as the guitar version and guitar presets, too).
Only then I realized how good the Bassamp really was :o

a 'sound' is not only in a converter or the 4th decimal of a thd figure...
even if you improve the (already great) converters of an RME significantly, devices like Guitar Rig will still sound the same and NEVER even remotely as punchy and fat as Scope devices - it's in the algorithm of the sound engine and that runs, well... on a Scope card only ;)

I've tried to be honest from a (lousy though) instrumentalist's viewpoint (like in a shop when you compare different amps and cabinets) - my taste may be different from yours, so don't take this for dogma.
But you WILL be able to hear the difference (with comparable setups) - whichone you prefer is of course entirely up to you.

btw an RME is first choice to connect a Scope (via Adat) to non-compatible hardware or OS versions, like Mac OSX

cheers, Tom
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Post by danieldude »

:D hey tom

it looks like you studied the subject lomg enough, as soon as i understand what you wrote , ill try it!(english is not my first language :) )
latley ive benn using my zoom effects direct to a preamp(art dps2)and then to pulsar, im fairly new and im sure i didnt use even half of the card functions- i only use the compressor or so, and right now , im stuck with this irq problem that frezzez my computer( i think its an irq problem) so i wouls like to learn more
you sound like an expert, want to be a pulsar mentor? :wink:

be well
daniel
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Post by astroman »

well, I'm really not such an expert with mobo, irqs, winxp and all those strange 'modes', let alone a sequencer...

but 5 devices on one irq doesn't read ok at all, even for me.
I just remember having read that if 'this and that' is picked wrong, WinXP maps everything to one interupt - unfortunately I don't remember the exact context.

anyway - if the Pulsar is a Pulsar One (4 DSPs), then it might have problems with the 945 chipset, if I remember correctly - I'll try to find that back.
it was the 915, at least a 2 out of 3 match... ;)
http://www.planetz.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... ght=pulsar

cheers, Tom
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Post by garyb »

hey man, don't do anything drastic.(yet)

first, disable every peripheral(printer port, serial port, builtin audio, etc) that you don't absolutely need in the bios.

if that doesn't solve the problem, change slots.

if that doesn't fix it, tell me what is sharing with the card. if you end with just a usb controller shared, that's not such a big problem because you have several and it's no big deal to disable one in the device manager(they have names like 7E3XY or 23054 and can be located in the device manager and disabled, thus freeing the irq). all your usb ports will usually still function.

acpi can't fix that there are more devices than available irqs and that the motherboard's archetecture demands certain arrangements. dual core will show multiple processors. pci-e video cards are not a problem.
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Post by danieldude »

this is intresting.. can it be that my mobo does not fit pulsar?

i changed the slots and now i got this


IRQ‏ 18 Intel(R) 82801GB PCI Express Root Port - 27D4
IRQ‏ 18 Intel(R) 82801GB USB Universal Host Controller - 27CA
IRQ‏ 18 Creamware Pulsar

now , i did also a memory test before setuo, i did 4 tests , that were alllrighty
but the project is a gittering and sttutering.
im attaching my pulsar connections, maybe its a wrong device?

be well
daniel :)
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Post by garyb »

let's slow down and confine this to one thread. how about the other thread only?
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Post by danieldude »

hey guys , this one got me nervuse

Quote: "

On 2005-07-15 09:11, Immanuel wrote:
Are generation 1 boards incompatible with the new intel chipset???



unfortunately, it seems like that.
anyway, a pular1 togehter with a 2nd generation board like home (luna) runs perfect "
:(
and by the way
before i ment to say that the cubase project is still unstable.
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Post by garyb »

no, it'll work or somethings physically broken(highly doubtful).
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Post by danieldude »

hey tom, ive put my chipset modle in ny other theread, if its ok with you , we will continue there.

:)

be well :D
daniel
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