Hardly Close

Liquid Len · Post by **Liquid Len** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:54 pm

<a name="planetz-file"></a><a href="http://www.planetz.com/Pulsar/files/mus ... .mp3"><img src="/forums/images/listen_icon.gif" border="0" alt=" Song"> Song</a> <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Genre: Rock <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Uses: Pulsar Effects,Pulsar Mixers,Pulsar Synths copyright © 2004 Cormier / Lowe _____________________________________ 70s AOR influenced. A lot of the songs I'm doing sound a bit busy, I wound up with a backlog of music that had no vocals. Now I'm trying to push ahead in that regard, learning how to do vocals, just writing gibberish lyrics for now, and a lot of the music is as busy as it can be cause there was no vocalist around to fit into the song at the time it was worked out. Maybe someday I'll feel confident enough to do a single vocal on a song and not 10,000 harmonies

Post by **hubird** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:12 pm

not my style, but you did a good job on the stanza text part, and i wish i could play organ like you do

AudioIrony · Post by **AudioIrony** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:32 pm

I actually like the 10,000 harmonies - it's what sets you apart.

FrancisHarmany · Post by **FrancisHarmany** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:20 pm

I like it! good stuff. The vocals are cool

Liquid Len · Post by **Liquid Len** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:40 am

Thanks everyone for the kind comments. Before posting these, I went and listened to a bunch of songs posted here. Techno, techno, techno! I have a hard time making a useful comment on that kind of music because I don't really get into 'pure' techno that much, but pretty much ALL of it is better mixed than my stuff. I was wondering how my songs would be received and was half expecting to get some (possibly scathing and useful) criticism from a techno-point of view. My next song will be techno (with millions of vocals), I'm trying to learn the genre a bit.

AudioIrony · Post by **AudioIrony** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:39 pm

Just what is it that makes you say that almost everyone else's work is better produced than your own?

I think it's a case of being overly critical on your part - which isn't entirely a bad thing but can be a bit self destructive.

I honestly enjoyed your work and loved the vocal treatments.
I thought your work was "something different" - which always pricks my ears up.

I can't give you "scathing" comment or really even technical advice. I work in a totally intuitive way and have no real technical knowledge.

I think if you are not happy with your "production" then you need to look at EXACTLY what it is about other people's stuff that you like and then just ask how they did it.

Keep going !!!!!
Regards

Liquid Len · Post by **Liquid Len** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:25 pm

AudioIrony wrote:Just what is it that makes you say that almost everyone else's work is better produced than your own?
Regards

Better mixed is what I said. Possibly due to having less elements in the mix to contend with (so production comes into it), but a lot of it is knowledge and skill at mixing, which I've realized is a completely different world than songwriting.

I'm happy with my production, just trying to get different insights, I guess. 'Scathing' - I should use less over-the-top language in my posts, I admit. Sometimes (ha!) my brain isn't firing on all 8 cylinders in the morning.

AudioIrony · Post by **AudioIrony** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:42 pm

Ahhh Ok - sorry about the misunderstanding.
To me mixing is part of the production - but now I get it.

Maybe if you point out the areas in your song (mixing - wise) that you are struggling with - or wish to improve - then some of the tech gurus on here will be able to give you some pointers.

Regarding my comment about being overly critical - I was most likely projecting my own short falls there.

Anyway - keep asking questions and someone might know the answers or point you in the right direction.

Regards
P.S - my brain fires on 3.5 cylinders for most of my waking life - so you're in pretty good shape

Post by **Neil B** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:51 pm

Some people don't like comparisons so I hope you're not one of them.

This took me back to my teens with thoughts of Pink Floyd, Julie Driscoll, Mott The Hoople, hints of Emerson, San Francisco and the hippy movement.

I absolutely love this track.

And I shouldn't be worried about the vocals either - solo or 10,000 wise.

A breath of fresh has blown across the surface of Planet Z

AudioIrony · Post by **AudioIrony** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:38 pm

yeah - what he said.
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