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as has been pointed out many times, it's not really about a driver. the problem is the software port.
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Post by freyr »

It's the driver I most concerned with. With a functional driver there exists the posibility of writing custom software (that has nothing to do with the acctual ScopeFusionPlatform) to interface and utilize the hardwara.
I fail to see why this would bother CreamWare since in every case you have to own hardware that only they can provide.
It might even encourage the development of new ways to use the hw that would cost CW zero euros and might help sell the hw.
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because it doesn't work that way. to make it available to you makes knockoffs possible. cwa doesn't want that(or so i understand it).

if you want to write your own program to load the dsps and make your own plugins, go get an analog devices developemental board and start from scratch. the asgard can handle it... :grin:

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Post by tim167 »

just throwing in some thoughts:
I did'n read the whole thread so I might have some wrong assumptions...
I think it would be smart make the CW boards available in the GNU/Linux audio world, because it's an interesting and a growing world (or market if you like).
see as one of many exmples:
http://ubuntustudio.com
I am now spending more time on linux than on windows and OSX, where I originally started.
I'm not a Linux guru at all, but with some help from a friend I managed to set up a great audio/video workstation based on ubuntu linux.
The more I learn about it, the happier I am having made the switch, both philosopically, technically and eventually artistically.
These days there's practically nothing I did have on windows and could'nt find a good (often better) alternative for on linux. And it's all 'free as in freedom' :razz:
It would however be nice not to be forced to dump or sell my pulsarII+lunabox but to be able to continue using it. It's still a useful peice of hardware, for the time being... :wink:
AFAICS the CW-on-linux story isn't really advancing. Is there any development going on now, or are CW bound by some contracts and promised some big corporations not to share the sources with the community...?
I find it hard to understand a manufacturer of hardware who rejects something that would multiply the list of 'things you can do with the thing', but I gather I'm missing some point there...
anyway, it would be great to see my pulsar's 8ins and 8outs appear in the qjacktcl interface!
what's the status?


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after Creamware's own development team got fired, due to the NOAH problems, protection of the source code was the mainreason to not give it to an external group.
Alas.
There is absolutely no news known.
Half a year ago I got an email from Creamware's Ralf in which he said that 'Creamware is still willing to support OSX'.
According to some here it will never happen as it is way too expensive to develop (no, it's not just a driver problem).
Reckon on an external box.
We have to wait I'm afraid :smile:

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In the near term your best bet would be to move the Scope cards into a dedicated windows/os0 machine & attach midi & adat back to your linux daw.
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On 2006-09-29 00:45, valis wrote:
In the near term your best bet would be to move the Scope cards into a dedicated windows/os0 machine & attach midi & adat back to your linux daw.
rather expensive and not optimal solution
the whole idea of using linux is usually not gaining extra speed, but not to pay for extra M$ Window$ :wink:
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a scope card costs $800. windows xp home oem costs $80. if price is the consideration, it's not over much. you probably spend more than that on beer and television each month.

it also amazes me when people seem to think that linux is "anti-establishemnt". the U.S. government has put more effort into linux than any other operating system.....

i thought the reason to use unix over windows is stability and the lack of the registry...

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On 2006-10-01 00:51, garyb wrote:
...i thought the reason to use unix over windows is stability and the lack of the registry...
that for one and 2nd

you can customize it and throw out what's either not needed or not wanted

that's all about it

cheers, Tom
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