Weird problem with SFP on WinXP with certain synths

flips · Post by **flips** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:17 am

Hi!
With some synths, for example the Pro-12, I get a problem if I leave it running overnight/for hours. When I come back, the midi keys no longer work normally. If I press one key, it seems to be alternating between three different tones repeatedly. And there is no difference what key I press, they all sound the exact same. And often when I come back after some hours, if I don't just quit Scope and restart, but just try to reload synth and stuff, I end up with a blue screen of death flashing by before the computer reboots ...

(I don't remember right now which other synths I experienced this on, but it was more than one other of the Creamware synths, but not problem with f.ex. UKnow or the Zarg Solaris Core demo.)

Anyone else experienced this, or is it just something related to my hardware/drivers?

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flips

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astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:46 am

this looks like keyboard tracking is lost somewhere on the way - on my System this happens (at least it seems) exclusively with patches that have some kind of glide funktion activated (portamento etc).
Turning that off may bring the keytracking back, but the next patch with portamento will loose it again...

I've never been able to find a pattern behind this, it's not restricted to CWA synths - but in fact seems to require one of the more 'sophisticated' devices

when I leave my system running idle for a long time, (say at least half an hour) then it will most likely crash when I add another device to the project.

seems to be related to the countless energy saving and power control options between bios, OS and hardware...

I just ignore it - as both annoyances are predictable(to a degree) and not too frequent.

cheers, Tom

Post by **hubird** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:24 am

in this context: If I leave my computer for a while I click in Cubase 'Disable audio'.
Sometimes ASIO got lost, and this helps

valis · Post by **valis** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:37 pm

Always SAVE before leaving your machine for extended periods of time. Most of my XP installations definately seem to lose sync between the hardware & software at some point (extended idle periods). There is a setting buried in your control panels (reset board when idle) which, in theory, if unchecked will keep the software & hardware in communication regardless of how long it is idle, but I've found that I still have to re-initialize Scope somehow after long idle periods. Usually (for light work) I'll just reopen the same project, or do a new project. If it's an important project I close & reopen Scope to insure that everything is stable. I leave all my machines on all the time...

Now for what it's worth, the vast majority of my PROFESSIONAL software isn't happy to be left open overnight. Almost all of it will slowly eat resources somewhere. Adobe products seem to have memory leaks these days, a lot of audio sequencers will slowly become unstable when idle, etc. The fact that I can simply reload the current Scope project (or close/reopen for ultra-safe) doesn't really hinder me all that much. Try waiting for an Illustrator project to reopen that uses a gig & a half of ram (or a Logic project for that matter)....

flips · Post by **flips** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:55 am

I usually never turn off anything except monitors and of course if I'm going away for a couple of weeks, and I guess I'm spoiled by using Linux/UNIX as main OS for years, as I'm not used to logging out or shutting down computers. Too bad most audio stuff does not come for Linux ...

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flips

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:37 am

you don't need to shut down - just re-initialize the app

I also think that constantly running machines wear out less, and tried the different settings in control panel that Valis mentions, but no fundamental change.

cheers, Tom

okantah · Post by **okantah** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:44 am

Is Scope working in Linux ?
Win.me is far stable than win xp.
And yet i don't know if it's win.xp or the cubase sx. or cubase sx or win.xp .
In the win.xp needs tooooooooo much tweaking.asuming someone with less computer knowledge,certainly one would give up easily

geoffd99 · Post by **geoffd99** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:09 am

I read this as I have a problem with sticking midi notes in a lot of my CW synths.

But I do not get the 'idle' problems - I can leave CW running for long periods - say 16 hours,a day - and return, all ok. I switch off overnight as it saves electricity (save the planet etc); and I don't use the PC at night.

One thing that made my XP Home system unstable was viruses and spyware, it was unstable, improved to 100% working fine after using AVG Grisoft anti virus, Spyware Doctor, and recently Microsoft Defender. This cleared all the invisible stuff that was tripping up the system. PS I don't work for these people!

I'd do this before any arcane hacks etc.

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