Creamware - whatz your next synth ?

sharc · Post by **sharc** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 4:36 am

On 2006-08-26 03:30, stardust wrote:
maybe this is because there are tons of emulations out there (VST, DSP, HW synths)

What is so special about the nth emulation of a legend, if not the price or the ease of use as a preset 'rompler'.

Yes, it would be nice to see more of the legends reborn in these forms rather than another 'already been done' synth clone to add to the dozen or so already out there. (minimoog, oddyssey, etc.)

I don't think the next CW synth has much of a chance of being a roland emulation (for legal reasons) but that still leaves plenty of other synths that so far haven't been emulated at all. You see them on the Device/Wishlist all the time. Personally, I'd like to see the OSCar done or maybe an Oberheim, or Crumar Spirit, or Elka Synthex. A Synthi would be cool too. The way I see it, Scope has lots of things going for it, but in terms of marketing it has always been strongest for synth emulations, the Noah and ASB boxes are testiment to this, so yes it would be good to see some more classic synths added to the collection.

TBH I couldn't care less about presets, other than as a initial rough guide to a synth's capabilities. I usually find I'm more productive with a synth that doesn't come with dozens of presets. As I can remember finding out when switching from BassStaion Keyboard to the rack version, lots of presets can make you lazy.

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erminardi · Post by **erminardi** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:58 am

Yeah, the possible list can be huge:

EMS Synthi A
CS 80
ARP 2600 [the big brother or Prodyssey, then easy to do...]
Oberheim four voice SEM or OBXa
OSCar
Elka Synthex
Yamaha DX7 IID [with sysex import!!! Like NI FM7 but with the special Creamware warmth...]
Korg MS20
Korg Trident
...and my wonderful Crumar DS2

petal · Post by **petal** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:40 am

It's all very interesting, and I do have a few whishes of my own, but does Creamware even have plugindevelopers hired to develop just one of the plugins that you have suggested? If I remember correctly all the developers "had to leave" Creamware and quickly found work elsewhere, most of them at the same place. These were the people with the actual plugin production experience which will be so important if and when new plugins are going to be developed by Creamware themselves.

To me it looks like they have "outsourced" all plugindevelopment, which might not be a bad thing, but it might put an end to truely wothty emulations of legendary anogue equipment, unless these new thirdparty developers find solid economic backing somewhere.

I'm not trying to kill peoples dreams here, but to me it doesn't seem realistic that we will see any new creamware-produced emulations anytime soon.
The next big step develpmentwise, within our exclusive little Scope-culture, will be a new generation of Scope-hardware, new drivers for this hardware and porting of the excisting softwarebase. Something the ASB's hopefully will make possible within the near future, which to me seems to be 1 year - 2 years at the most.

Long live Creamware - we still believe in you!
Thomas

sharc · Post by **sharc** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:17 am

Couldn't have put that better myself Petal. I agree that the development of the platform itself is the way forward. But I wouldn't be so quick to deny the possibility of more quality emulations in the near future as the platform does still have active 3rd party developers (independant from CW) capable of such projects. So strictly speaking it wouldn't be Creamware's next synth. Although, if it's good enough you never know.