Creamware - whatz your next synth ?

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:31 am

So now Creamware seem to have all their high-end synth stuff build into ASB boxes....

I think this was a good idea to spread Creamwares name all over the world and
maybe they now got the financial basis to continue Creamware synth plug-ins development....

I think their strategy is to continue building high quality virtual analog synths and they will then realise them as Scope plug-in and as and ASB ...

musicians that like the ASB will also consider buying the Scope system and the other way round....

They cannot build ASB boxes from every Scope plug-in, for example

-an ASB Six-String plastik guitar.... lol
-an ASB Inferno

I think nobody would buy this....

So they have to come up with something new....

A new beast.....its coming I feel it.....

What is their next retro synth ? what do other platez users expect ?

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alfonso · Post by **alfonso** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:32 am

On 2006-08-19 08:31, hifiboom wrote:
-an ASB Inferno

I think nobody would buy this....

With embedded lighter?

vmartell · Post by **vmartell** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:03 am

I have this feeling - well more like a desire, and I have mentioned this in the ASB forums: ASB boxes implementing modulars, complete with patch points, etc in an, of course, compressed factor, ala Korg Legacy MS20 usb thingy...

1) An ARP 2600
2) A small Moog Modular, like the System 15

V

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:30 am

Hopefully they will concertrate also on their existing Scope users and bring new FX and Synths as plug-in...

not only ASBs

I`m not too much interested in these ASBs, they are nice for playing around but the Scope system is just much more flexible, and you can use your DSPs with what ever plug-in you want...

Bifop · Post by **Bifop** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:46 pm

They have not built all their high end synths yet.... The vectron ASB would be a thing I'd buy in a heart beat if they'd ever choose this route...
Let's not even talk about a modular (expandable) ASB...

As for a new plug in, I'd vote for an Oberheim Xpander.

Lima · Post by **Lima** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:31 am

I vote for the CS-80.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:10 am

I bet the next piece of gear will be some guitar processing hardware, probably with one or more pedals...

on the synth side of things a coop with Zarg for a hardware QuantumWave is the most prospective candidate imho
the original was close to unaffordable and enough famous names involved to heat desire

it doesn't interfere with the rest of the product line and would be their first multitimbral module

I've recently 'tried' to use it that way, inspired by a link on the <a href=http://www.zargmusic.com/oldernews/index.html>Zarg pages</a> to Till Kopper's <a href=http://www.qwave.de/>site</a> with original Wave tracks.
That thing is not just a lush pad machine, but also a drumbox and a lead synth - simultaneously, if you want it to

and have enough DSP

all wishful thinking anyway - cheers, Tom

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soul-synthesis · Post by **soul-synthesis** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:06 pm

CWA should focus on some new powerful DSP hardware. New synths/fx are all good and well but the existing DSP is far too slow and under-powered. I would like to see things moving away from internal PCI and PCI express cards to external processing boxes (i.e. firewire/usb2).

i wouldnt mind a solaris asb-type box

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:33 pm

yeah new cards or external design with more power would be very cool....

But the problem is, they have to completly reassemble every plug-in, fx and mixer and every other thing to the new platform...

And the new design will not be compatible with the old one, And 3rd party developers have to transform their plug-ins too.

And then they will have to develop every plug-in for two platforms... the old and the new one...

So they are in a difficult situation...

Reducing the flexibilty would not be very nice, but this was written in an eralier thread...

that the new hardware won`t be a substitute for the old one....

jimmypage · Post by **jimmypage** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:43 am

access virus for scope card seem to me powerfull choice

Pls creamware buy the royalltitles!

sorry for my english and for out of topic

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Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:24 pm

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Post by **hubird** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:03 pm

I'd say the Planetz community itself, our moderator got official warnings from Bob Moog company to stop immediately people from using to pretend it was him (R.I.P. now) who signed up.
In the end this means juridical threats.
Not really big fun, isn't it?

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:34 pm

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next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:40 pm

im SO close to calling myself Elvis. Hey, didnt i see Plato in here allready?

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:45 pm

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Post by **garyb** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:08 pm

Plato: http://www.planetz.com/forums/bb_profil ... &user=1668

paranoia is all well and good, but...

jimmypage · Post by **jimmypage** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:36 pm

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and i have one tatoo on me calledd Zoso

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:08 am

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Eric Dahlberg · Post by **Eric Dahlberg** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:28 pm

On 2006-08-19 08:31, hifiboom wrote:
So now Creamware seem to have all their high-end synth stuff build into ASB boxes....What is their next retro synth ? what do other platez users expect ?

Great thread! The CS-80, SEM, & Jupiter 8 are all dream machines I'd love to see emulations of. I'd also love to see a proper MS-20 emulation, something more accurate than the very inaccurate Korg Legacy.

Eric Dahlberg · Post by **Eric Dahlberg** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:30 pm

On 2006-08-19 11:30, hifiboom wrote:
I`m not too much interested in these ASBs, they are nice for playing around but the Scope system is just much more flexible, and you can use your DSPs with what ever plug-in you want...

I agree with your preference for the DSP card system. Trickling products between the ASB & DSP card lines is a great way to go about it, though. This is exactly what Line 6 does, recycle the exact same algorithms into different product lines to suit different types of users, & look how well it's working for them. If anything, Creamware should be looking to recycle their algorithms even more by releasing keyboard versions (Nord keyboards all sell far better than the modules do).

Anyway, any success with the ASB line will benefit us card users. As you said in the beginning of this thread, Creamware has to find a new synth to release an ASB of & that should hopefully mean a new synth for us, too.

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