I must have 4 PCI 32 bit slots, the Asus P5W-DH is an excellant choice, but it only has 3 PCI, the Intel BadAxe is what I really want but it only has 2 PCI. The only other choice I see is an ECS w/ VIA chipsets,...Please, tell me there are more Mobos 4 Conroe out there. I just spent a load on an ES E6700 just to get it, but I have good info on using 3 15 DSP's 4 SFP, with a Hammerfall DSP 9632 on all my VST stuff and Bidule. This way if VST hosting has problems, SFP will still continue w/o having to reload everything. That is my concern, 4 this is a live performance rig.
Strength And Honor,
WANTED: 4 PCI 32 bit Conroe Mobo
well I dunno the full PCI specs, but I guess that a mobo with 2 slots has 2 interupts available for slot devices.
Give the RME 1 slot and an IRQ and plug in a slot extender (riser card) into the remaining one. Since the Scope cards could share an interupt (imho) this might work.
Those extenders exist in almost any form and usually are difficult (to say at least...) to mount in regular PC cases, but industrial 19" rack boxes might have proper backplates.
If it works (at all) could be checked with a 'floating' mobo.
Take care at the proper orientation (away from the RME card) or you'll look as stupid as me, when I found out that I couldn't even plug in a single card because it pointed into the wrong direction... (the local PC supplier had given me a handful to 'play with' over the weekend)
anyway, since it's industrial stuff the supplier will most likely be able to answer if the procedure above is basically possible - leaving software specific aspects aside of course.
good luck, Tom
Give the RME 1 slot and an IRQ and plug in a slot extender (riser card) into the remaining one. Since the Scope cards could share an interupt (imho) this might work.
Those extenders exist in almost any form and usually are difficult (to say at least...) to mount in regular PC cases, but industrial 19" rack boxes might have proper backplates.
If it works (at all) could be checked with a 'floating' mobo.
Take care at the proper orientation (away from the RME card) or you'll look as stupid as me, when I found out that I couldn't even plug in a single card because it pointed into the wrong direction... (the local PC supplier had given me a handful to 'play with' over the weekend)
anyway, since it's industrial stuff the supplier will most likely be able to answer if the procedure above is basically possible - leaving software specific aspects aside of course.
good luck, Tom
i don't see you gaining stability by adding the fourth card. if the vst host crashes in a way to not reboot the whole machine, scope will continue to work in the same way you were thinking of regardless. after the song ended you could restart scope and/or your vst host.
the 965chipset mobos seem to have 3pci slots...
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboa ... /index.htm
the 965chipset mobos seem to have 3pci slots...
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboa ... /index.htm
That reminds me of our beloved PERL board. I always seem to end up with the Intel CPU/Chipset combo when all is said and done. Well I'll take the 3 x 15 DSP cards and pass on the RME. I know SFP won't crash, but I still don't like what I've read and heard in other forums about VST host crashings, Milli Vanilli, etc. We shall see. A worst case scenario, I can just make up all of my performances in Giga, and have MIDI note triggers which would stream from the drives, just like the sample playback engine does.
Astro,GaryB,Thank You,
Jimmy V.
Astro,GaryB,Thank You,
Jimmy V.
Astroman,
These 15 DSP cards are quite heavy don't you think to be stacking on a PCI riser card? Would a backplate hold them in place? I am researching the idea, as I find many of your suggestions have an alternative idea where many thought no alternative was available. These are mostly made to put 4U sized cards or better in a 1U, or 2U case. They even have the old style 8x AGP riser cards too. The fact is that I love Intel boards 4 they have made every one of my live shows 100% stable. Not even a hiccup with SFP. I will be using the D865PERL on SFP box #1 till it has a meltdown!! I will let you guys know what I come up with.
The D965 mobo GaryB showed us is suppose to have a new memory controller on it, and be faster than the 975, as it was just quality tested at Intel 4 the last several months prior to it's release.
I haven't decided on the RME idea 4 sure yet, and that will have to be researched more too. I am ready to spend on myself again as I was recently forced to make a political contribution in the amount of 2500 USD, it has made me feverish to finish this project w/o further interuptions.
Thank You My Brothas',
Best Regards,
_________________
Jimmy V.
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These 15 DSP cards are quite heavy don't you think to be stacking on a PCI riser card? Would a backplate hold them in place? I am researching the idea, as I find many of your suggestions have an alternative idea where many thought no alternative was available. These are mostly made to put 4U sized cards or better in a 1U, or 2U case. They even have the old style 8x AGP riser cards too. The fact is that I love Intel boards 4 they have made every one of my live shows 100% stable. Not even a hiccup with SFP. I will be using the D865PERL on SFP box #1 till it has a meltdown!! I will let you guys know what I come up with.
The D965 mobo GaryB showed us is suppose to have a new memory controller on it, and be faster than the 975, as it was just quality tested at Intel 4 the last several months prior to it's release.
I haven't decided on the RME idea 4 sure yet, and that will have to be researched more too. I am ready to spend on myself again as I was recently forced to make a political contribution in the amount of 2500 USD, it has made me feverish to finish this project w/o further interuptions.
Thank You My Brothas',
Best Regards,
_________________
Jimmy V.
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Since 1 SFP 15 DSP card must carry the outputs I have come to the conclusion that the new little D965 board w/o RME card is the winner. Research showed that this design has been further upgraded by a new Intel memory controller designed to be used w/ Conroe CPU's. Whether it is faster or not is inconsequential to me. The fact is that this design is the most recent from Intel, and as we all know it has been tested by the R & D facilities very thoroughly for several months prior to it's release. It will be my new PERL 4 SFP. I only have to slug it through with the VST stuff to make sure that I can use this stuff live w/o incident. My Nuendo media man in town here says that the power of the Conroe E6700 is extreme with VST hosting as he has used it last week on his box which uses the Asus P5W-DH. He now has to return it to me. 4 a few days he was probably hoping 4 my imprisonment so he could keep it, but I retained a good lawyer and was released after 16 hours. Too bad for Brotha'Man Toto, as he must go back to his little D820 CPU to continue his video archiving tasks. Thanks 4 helping me decide how to move forward with this DAW 4 SFP.
Astro,..GaryB,....Men Or Myths?
Astro,..GaryB,....Men Or Myths?
see this :
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboa ... /index.htm
I have always use intel mobo never problems
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboa ... /index.htm
I have always use intel mobo never problems
Brotha'Man BronYaur,
I love Intel also, no uneeded extra frills 4 me. The XCS was my first choice, it's a beauty. But at this time it doesn't support the extra vreg, and bios 4 Conroe. That could change, but the D965LT looks like a winner. Lots of computer houses are pushing the Abit 965 w/ Conroe line as a combo. But I have used Intel CPU/Chipset combo 4 one year w/o one hiccup, so I see no need to look anywhere else unless I want to overclock, then the Asus rules in that dept.
I love Intel also, no uneeded extra frills 4 me. The XCS was my first choice, it's a beauty. But at this time it doesn't support the extra vreg, and bios 4 Conroe. That could change, but the D965LT looks like a winner. Lots of computer houses are pushing the Abit 965 w/ Conroe line as a combo. But I have used Intel CPU/Chipset combo 4 one year w/o one hiccup, so I see no need to look anywhere else unless I want to overclock, then the Asus rules in that dept.
"ASUSTeK P5WDG2 WS Professional" has 4 PCI Slots(32bit PCI x2 & PCI-X x2)! and supports Core2 Duo, Wow!
http://www.unitech.com.tw/2005newweb/20 ... DG2-WS%2FP
Or, "Asrock ConRoe865PE"(i865 Chipset) has 5 PCI(32bit) Slots! and supports Core2 Duo.
http://www.asrock.com/product/ConRoe865PE.htm
http://www.unitech.com.tw/2005newweb/20 ... DG2-WS%2FP
Or, "Asrock ConRoe865PE"(i865 Chipset) has 5 PCI(32bit) Slots! and supports Core2 Duo.
http://www.asrock.com/product/ConRoe865PE.htm
"SUPERMICRO PDSBA"(Intel® G965 Chipset) has 4 32bit PCI Slots and supports Core2 Duo.
http://www.supermicro.com/products/moth ... /PDSBA.cfm
http://www.supermicro.com/products/moth ... /PDSBA.cfm
Just got my DP965LT. It does not have the graphics you speak of, but uses a PCI-e 16x 4 the graphics. GaryB might be coming to Vegas to stay with me and my fiancees to help me build this new DAW. We shall see about our schedules. After he sees all the little babes, and older hoes too, he might not wish to return very quickly. I shall try to accomadate him with a work area close to the pool. We picked the right time to build a DAW in Vegas. As there are flocks of birds which migrate ( rotate ) on a regular basis now. I believe the scientific name for the study of these migratory patterns is called " Fistis Jerkoffius ".
Ankyu,..Ankyu,..Please Stay Seated,
Ankyu,..Ankyu,..Please Stay Seated,