Hi all !
My name is Oliver Davis and this is my first post!!
I just got myself a Pulsar II Project card with the Scope platform. I know it is comatable with OS 9 but for the life of me I can not find ANY information on OS X. Reading old articals on SOS it mentions that Creamware will be releasing if tor OSX . As the Creamware Scope site is down - can anybody help me out here ? I have a lot of choices I need to make. If it is OSX compatable - all is fine but if not I will not be able to use my Korg Legacy or Logic Pro 7 - This is a BIG downpoint but on the otherhand I will be gaining the power of Creamware.... Any help is a great help !
thanks,
Oliver
MAC OS X ???
There's no support for OSX.
You'll probably need to run 2 mac systems, one OSX, one OS9. Otherwise you're only choice will be to put the Scope project card in a suitable PC. In both cases you can have one system as master & one as slave simply transferring digital audio between them via Adat.
OSX support is not forthcoming for the current generation of Creamware cards. Creamware are providing OSX support for their new product lines, but not the older ones.
Welcome to the Planet.
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Shroomz on 2006-07-08 04:33 ]</font>
You'll probably need to run 2 mac systems, one OSX, one OS9. Otherwise you're only choice will be to put the Scope project card in a suitable PC. In both cases you can have one system as master & one as slave simply transferring digital audio between them via Adat.
OSX support is not forthcoming for the current generation of Creamware cards. Creamware are providing OSX support for their new product lines, but not the older ones.
Welcome to the Planet.
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Shroomz on 2006-07-08 04:33 ]</font>
-
Oliver Davis
- Posts: 8
- Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:00 pm
- Contact:
-
samplaire
- Posts: 2464
- Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2001 4:00 pm
- Location: Warsaw to Szczecin, Poland
- Contact:
Hi,
The problem with the DP MDDs and MDDs at all is that their PSUs are larger than in previous Macs which unables you to put 2 or more CWA cards and wire them with the necesary STDM cable. If you try it you will not be able to close the computer case. Besides, not each MDD is OS9 compatible (correct me if I'm wrong) . But if you plan to use only one CWA c ard and your Mac is OS9 compatible (OS9 compatible doesn't mean the Classic mode ran from the OSX ) there should be no technical problem. I'd prefer buying a secondhand quicksilver and upgrade it with a SonnetTech upgrade card to make it as fast as possible.
I have the G4 sawtooth (ie G4 with the AGP port), an early G4, upgraded with SonnetTech Encore/ST 1400MHz card and it works flawlessly! I have 2 CWA cards (I used to have even 3) and they work with no problem on my machine. I also use Logic Pro ( but 6.4.3) on MacOS 9.2.2 and the DAW (knock on wood) is very stable!
The problem with the DP MDDs and MDDs at all is that their PSUs are larger than in previous Macs which unables you to put 2 or more CWA cards and wire them with the necesary STDM cable. If you try it you will not be able to close the computer case. Besides, not each MDD is OS9 compatible (correct me if I'm wrong) . But if you plan to use only one CWA c ard and your Mac is OS9 compatible (OS9 compatible doesn't mean the Classic mode ran from the OSX ) there should be no technical problem. I'd prefer buying a secondhand quicksilver and upgrade it with a SonnetTech upgrade card to make it as fast as possible.
I have the G4 sawtooth (ie G4 with the AGP port), an early G4, upgraded with SonnetTech Encore/ST 1400MHz card and it works flawlessly! I have 2 CWA cards (I used to have even 3) and they work with no problem on my machine. I also use Logic Pro ( but 6.4.3) on MacOS 9.2.2 and the DAW (knock on wood) is very stable!
Sir -
Oliver Davis
- Posts: 8
- Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:00 pm
- Contact:
-
hubird
I have a MDD dual 1,25, running OS9.2.2
It's very stable
The case can't be closed completely if you have more than one CW card, as the STDM cable -indeed- meets the supply box.
less than one cm is the chinc where you lock the side panel.
I used (easy and cleanly removable) tape to close the chinc, to prevent the airflow from getting disturbed.
As I said, very stable so far, the only minus point is the fan noise, which is a known issue, try to find a machine that's provided with the fan silencing upgrade set, offered by Apple during some time (which my machine does not have).
cheers.
PS. Current Creamware cards don't fit in the newer PCI(-e/x) slots, the voltage is different and the physical pin distribution along the slot is also different.
The chance that Creamware will devellop OS-X support (only) for older machines that can run OS9 boot is near zero...
OS-X support on the new Intell mac -along with a widely asked for external (FW) box- is the only chance we have, and even that is totally unshure.
Creamware is silent as the grave.
Alas.
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: hubird on 2006-07-08 06:29 ]</font>
It's very stable
The case can't be closed completely if you have more than one CW card, as the STDM cable -indeed- meets the supply box.
less than one cm is the chinc where you lock the side panel.
I used (easy and cleanly removable) tape to close the chinc, to prevent the airflow from getting disturbed.
As I said, very stable so far, the only minus point is the fan noise, which is a known issue, try to find a machine that's provided with the fan silencing upgrade set, offered by Apple during some time (which my machine does not have).
cheers.
PS. Current Creamware cards don't fit in the newer PCI(-e/x) slots, the voltage is different and the physical pin distribution along the slot is also different.
The chance that Creamware will devellop OS-X support (only) for older machines that can run OS9 boot is near zero...
OS-X support on the new Intell mac -along with a widely asked for external (FW) box- is the only chance we have, and even that is totally unshure.
Creamware is silent as the grave.
Alas.
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: hubird on 2006-07-08 06:29 ]</font>
If you get a G4, definately check the PCI slot type (as samplaire mentioned the newer 66mhz slots don't support the right voltage). I'm sure you can find quite a few used os9 machines being sold as packages quite cheap. 450 Mhz would be quite adequate.
Alternatively, if you're not against running Xp for Scope alone you can build a VERY cheap Nforce3 or i865 system. In fact, my current bx-based p3-700 machine was pieced together out of spare parts I had lying around and runs Scope + Bidule hosting 2-3 vsti just fine. The one thing I did purchase was a proper Power Supply. I've found that with even 2 scope cards a 400W 'quality' power supply seems to really help a lot. It increased system stability and the 'popping' sound you get on the card's outputs when Scope starts pretty much disappeared.
Alternatively, if you're not against running Xp for Scope alone you can build a VERY cheap Nforce3 or i865 system. In fact, my current bx-based p3-700 machine was pieced together out of spare parts I had lying around and runs Scope + Bidule hosting 2-3 vsti just fine. The one thing I did purchase was a proper Power Supply. I've found that with even 2 scope cards a 400W 'quality' power supply seems to really help a lot. It increased system stability and the 'popping' sound you get on the card's outputs when Scope starts pretty much disappeared.