n-track studio

Lima · Post by **Lima** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:38 pm

I've just found on the net this nice software; someone knows it?
http://www.fasoft.com/

According to the site, the limitations of the demo version are:

# a registration reminder dialog box appears every few times the playback or recording is started
# when mixdown to a single wave file a three note organ sound is added every approximately 30 seconds
# the evaluation version has no limitations in the number or lenght of the tracks.

I think we can "avoid" the note sound limitation simply recording live thru the wave dest (for example). So we can use it like sequencer and multitrack pratically without limitations and for free

As someone already worked on it? Any comment?

[ This Message was edited by: Lima on 2006-06-26 13:39 ]

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:30 pm

thanks for confirming that regardless how affordable a (software)product is - people will still not want to pay for it

cheers, Tom
(nothing personal btw)

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:05 pm

Sorry to say but Astro is right.. also nothing personal Lima. When a manufacturer makes a demo that is actually usable, so that you can use it and see if you like it, it's a bit unethical to take advantage of that. It's because of this that many demos have beep in the main audio stream every 10 seconds... not useful at all.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:32 pm

Yeh, just about everyone here on Z is rolling in cash.

Post by **hubird** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:59 pm

if the demo allows it, well, then it's not illegal

Perls for swines

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:54 pm

from time to time there's this discussion about how much more CWA and 3rd parties could sell if the prices were lower...

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:59 am

I never said it was illegal, simply unethical.

Would you prefer that all demos had annoying beeps every 10 seconds?

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:05 am

Uh.. come on, nobody can deny that the 3 note organ sound every 30 seconds is an attractive feature. Sounds like just what i'm after.

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:08 am

As Lima said, it's only on internal mixdowns. So as he says you could bus out ASIO channels into Scope and use it without limitations.

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:11 am

Ich bin joken'

Lima · Post by **Lima** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:15 am

Hi, I'm happy to share with you some my opinions and to take any constructive criticism, so no offense taken, indeed!

I agree, this procedure is unethical, but I belive that there are different kind of un-ethical behaviours: for example selling some

commercial (= crappy) cd at 20+euro is unethical and the "try before buy" policy is twice unethical in my opinion.
Seeing that almost us (at least me) are hobbyst and don't make money using that software, i wonder what's wrong on using that "feature".
A professinal user can spend in software twice or more what i've spent for all my hardware. Me no, because simply I can't afford that expences. This is the main reason that makes me to buy the creamware card.

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:30 am

software itself looks pretty promising though... I love these underdog-ish software. I always dream of doing full blown multi-million dollar projects with cheap, affordable, even free software. I did a couple of stuff for a big expo in Japan a while back on Tracktion and that was fun.

wow, it even has video playback. I'm going to try this one out.

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nprime · Post by **nprime** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:34 am

It's very affordable software.

$49.00

$75 if you want 24 bit support.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:38 pm

On 2006-07-01 08:15, Lima wrote:
...Seeing that almost us (at least me) are hobbyst and don't make money using that software, i wonder what's wrong on using that "feature"...

Imho it doesn't matter if one makes money by the use of a software or not.
I want top soundquality and easy usability of an application.
As such my demands are professional - I seem to favour a different sound aestethic than the typical airplay stuff, though

anyway, thanks for mentioning N-Track.
Obviously they put a lot of work in it recently, as it's available for years and I wouldn't have checked it myself a 2nd time

cheers, Tom

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:02 am

It's $49 - you've probably spent more than that on a big night out at a bar or a restaurant.

My preaching will end with this post, but I just want to point out one thing - you're abusing the license on this thing *just because it's software*, and that's really a shame and a bad message for anyone programming software for a living. If you needed a guitar FX pedal, or a keyboard stand, that cost $49, what would you do?

Also, what is unethical about 'try before you buy' ??

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kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:49 pm

tried the demo version.. it actually works quite well, and has most of workstation standard features... Seems pretty stable too. What's tough about software like this is that it may be very usable and practical and advanced like more expensive stuff... but there's always a danger of development suddenly stopping or the software itself disappearing once the single mastermind quits..

But still, this is quite amazing for a one man team. (it's just this one guy that programmed it I think) I would think he'd be able to charge a couple of hundred for this if the UI got cleaned up a bit. $75 doesn't do him justice at all.

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astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:47 pm

On 2006-07-02 14:49, kensuguro wrote:
... but there's always a danger of development suddenly stopping or the software itself disappearing once the single mastermind quits...

well, he didn't quit for nearly 10 years

just installed version 2.1.3 from a mag cd from april 2000. The Copyright starts 1996.

cheers, Tom

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 7:03 pm

lol, makes sense.. it's gotta take that much time to write something of this magnitude alone!

Zer · Post by **Zer** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:25 am

not to mention reaper

http://www.reaper.fm/

or

kristal

http://www.kreatives.org/kristal/index. ... on=details

or

audacity

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/

or

wavepad

http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/

and so on and on and on