SX3 + XTC mode

VJohnny · Post by **VJohnny** » Thu May 11, 2006 2:40 am

Hi Guys,
I have a very big problem with my xtc card. Maybe somebody can help me?

This is my setup:

-Windows XP pro(SP2)[Installed standard PC]
-Asus P4P800se mobo
-P4 3.2 Ghz processor (HT turned off)
-1024 MB memory
-200 GB HD

-2x M-Audio Delta 1010 (i use the ASIO)
-Cubase SX 3
-Some HW Synths
-A lot of pluggs

-creamware pulsar 2 (without any I/O) IRQ7 shared with a usb driver but thats no problem.

So here is the problem.

I have installed my pulsar card as it says in the manual.
I also installed my software from cd as it says in the manual. after the installation it asks me if i have any I/O's or if i want to use it in XTC mode. (use in xtc mode.)

Reboot the computer and i start cubase sx 3.
When loading cubase i also see that my xtc plugs are loading.

Seems ok

When i load 1 plug (master reverb pro) to my cubase mixer i works fine. when i load a second one my computer CPU crashes 100% and when i change the plugins to old behaviour it´s no solution i also copied the Application files from CD to my computer overwriting all... STILL NO SOLUTION...

I am going crazy...up in this MO#$%&&F$%^KR
pffff..chill

anyway...

Can anyone help me?

erminardi · Post by **erminardi** » Thu May 11, 2006 4:29 am

Wich Scope OS? 4.0, 4.5, 3.1a???

VJohnny · Post by **VJohnny** » Thu May 11, 2006 4:34 am

Thanks for the quick reply

I use Scope 4.0

erminardi · Post by **erminardi** » Thu May 11, 2006 2:03 pm

Mh, I had some similar problems in OS 3.1 solved in 4.0
I cannot help you in this case, sorry...

MD69 · Post by **MD69** » Thu May 11, 2006 3:15 pm

Hi stardust,

Masterverb pro works in XTC if it is connected to FX or Group channels (the same for optimaster).

In order to have a "stable" cubase project, you have to take into account the initialization sequence of cubase:
1 incoming and outgoing bus (with theirs FX)
2 Vsti and theirs bus
3 FX and Group bus
4 Audio and midi tracks

The instability often observed is mainly caused by having FX loaded before synth in the XTC project (seems linked to some DSP "reservation" which fail if some FXs are loaded).

One other point is to give some "ease" to XTC by interleaving Native Vsti and XTC Vsti in the VST rack (particularly with sampler which need some time to load : time used by XTC to stabilize its DSP allocation

).

If you follow these guidelines, you should not have loading failure anymore

cheers

VJohnny · Post by **VJohnny** » Thu May 11, 2006 10:56 pm

On 2006-05-11 11:11, stardust wrote:
masterverb pro does not work correctly in xtc mode. Usually it is screwed after reöoading the cubase project. try another effect to check if it is (only) that

The problem is with every FX ...if i use a single FX it works fine but when i load a second one... my computer CPU hits 100% and BAM! Crash!

VJohnny · Post by **VJohnny** » Thu May 11, 2006 11:13 pm

O yeh and i also have the problem with the CPU when i load a synth first.

i always start in a empty project with no native VST installed.

Hoop you guys can figure it out. because i have the card for a half year and it has not worked ones.

VJohnny · Post by **VJohnny** » Mon May 15, 2006 2:29 am

Nobody?

isnt there anything i can try?

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Mon May 15, 2006 4:32 am

You could try playing with disk:/path/to/sfp/App/IOEnabler/IO Enabler.exe ...

I don't use XTC, so I don't know much of it, but it's an idea.

Post by **garyb** » Mon May 15, 2006 9:13 am

likely it's the computer's setup. personally, i find xtc mode limiting and unnatural. it is a windows soundcard remnant. that said, was this a fresh install or did you install to an old operating system? what are your computer's specs?

VJohnny · Post by **VJohnny** » Mon May 15, 2006 11:20 pm

On 2006-05-15 05:32, at0m wrote:
You could try playing with disk:/path/to/sfp/App/IOEnabler/IO Enabler.exe ...

I don't use XTC, so I don't know much of it, but it's an idea.

I also did that and it dit not work.

Must i open a project XTC.pro in my scope before i can use Xtc in cubase?

I just dont get it anymore...

the sales man told me i could use it stand alone.

pffff...boy o boy.
I am realy fealing sick at the moment

MD69 · Post by **MD69** » Mon May 15, 2006 11:42 pm

hi Vjohnny

Must i open a project XTC.pro in my scope before i can use Xtc in cubase?

No, XTCproject.pro is the default project in XTC mode. Cubase launch XTC IF the Pulsar/Scope ASIO driver is selected

I just dont get it anymore...

the sales man told me i could use it stand alone.

Yes ... in SFP mode, but you will have to activate I/O and IO plate installed.

cheers

VJohnny · Post by **VJohnny** » Tue May 16, 2006 12:31 am

No, XTCproject.pro is the default project in XTC mode. Cubase launch XTC IF the Pulsar/Scope ASIO driver is selected

But i use the ASIO of my M-Audio cards.

could this be the problem? Idont want to use the ASIO of my XTC Card (with no I/O's)

Hmmmmmm

MD69 · Post by **MD69** » Tue May 16, 2006 2:05 am

Hi vJohnny

Maybe you should disable IO and XTC (disable XTC in SFP mode: For that launch SFP, on the livebar drop down the set menu and go to setting and uncheck enable xtc button).

cheers

VJohnny · Post by **VJohnny** » Tue May 16, 2006 11:23 pm

I had don this already but with no succes.

Maybe it is my P4 3.2 Ghz HT Processor.

or is there some one who has XTC working with a HT processor?

let me know......

MD69 · Post by **MD69** » Tue May 16, 2006 11:32 pm

Hi

Me: P4C800, P4 Northwood 3,2Ghz, HT enabled, Cubase SX with XTC only at 48Khz/128 samples latency!

... but:
- I use my scope boards for input/output
- my scope boards do not share interrupt
- windows XP home SP1, ACPI enabled

cheers

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VJohnny · Post by **VJohnny** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:54 am

So maybe it is the shared IRQ?

but i can not use my PCI slots without sharing.

is there an app that can disable PCI Slot Sharing?

MD69 · Post by **MD69** » Wed May 17, 2006 3:01 am

Hi,

Normally, you should one PCI slot sharing irq with your video card, one sharing irq with another PCI slot (you should put your I/O audio cards in both, sharing irq each other), 1 sharing the irq with some mother board ressource, and 2 PCI slots free of irq sharing in which you should put your pulsar.

VJohnny · Post by **VJohnny** » Wed May 17, 2006 5:49 am

this is my mobo spec.

As you can see every PCI slot is shared with a USB thingy.

anyone?

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MD69 · Post by **MD69** » Wed May 17, 2006 6:31 am

Hi,

On a P4C800, this is even worse ... but finally the BIOS found a config:
PCI1 and PCI2 share the same interrupt -> 2 * Scopes boards
PCI3 ->PULSAR SRB
PCI4 _> Share interrupt with HDD controller
PCI5 -> SW1000 Sharing interrupt with IEEE 1394

It took me some time to achieve this, but ....