Hey everyone . I'm still using a TDAT-16 recording board, a pulsar 1, and pulsar SRB cards for my mixing and recording.I still think the old TDAT program with 80 bit processing is still superrior to most of the systems out there.
I've been using an ABIT BE6-II MOBO with the 440BX chipset and I need another MOtherboard. I've gotten ripped on 2 of the same MOBO's from E-Bay because the BE6-II's were the first 133 front side bus MOBO's made and all the gamers overclocked them and consequentely most of them are ruined .
Can any one suggest the Best PIII 133 FSB MOBO to use with my TDAT-16 and pulsar for my recording setup? Maybe an ASUS and what is the best chipset back then that worked with TDAT and Pulsar.
Some of you oldies have got to still have some old systems still running out there.
I have bought a new Asus P5AD2-E Premium for my P4 setup which I use my pulsar cards with 4 gigs of ram and a 3.2 gig processor and ---it rocks. But of course TDAT doesn't wotk with it .
Can anyone Help?
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Old school Tdat-pulsar MOBO question?---!!!!-TUSL2-C Doesn'
there can be only one - the ASUS TUSL2-c 
it's probably THE board with the highest regard around for a long time and has an incredible PCI performance
regarding eBay offers pay attention to the seller's profile - one can guess pretty well if it's a hardcore overclock or just someone selling an outdated business PC
cheers, Tom
it's probably THE board with the highest regard around for a long time and has an incredible PCI performance
regarding eBay offers pay attention to the seller's profile - one can guess pretty well if it's a hardcore overclock or just someone selling an outdated business PC
cheers, Tom
The Asus Tusl2 is a great mobo. I'm still using it now. If you can, try to find a Pentium III-s Tualatin, mine is 1.2 Ghz but there is also 1.4 Ghz, it's a fantastic processor, built for servers, it has 512k of 2ndL cache, I think it's the more powerful one for this mobo.
Only thing that's bad is that this mobo has a 512Mb ram limit, but it's great.
Only thing that's bad is that this mobo has a 512Mb ram limit, but it's great.
Thanks for the input. I checked out the board and it's just the right config-- 5 PCI slots, although it is a socket 370 while I've been using a slot 1 processor, but at this point the processors are dirt cheap. And I remembered another board after looking at the ASUS website, The ASUS CUSL2.
Any thoughts on this board it looks to be about the same. Ant after researching It does seem the Intel 815E chipset is the best one.
I did try using the asus P3C-LS with the I820 chipset- utalizing rambus PC600-800. it seemed great and Bought 2 of them new in the box, But unfortunately after loading all of my other boaards I loaded TDAT-16 last and wouldn't you know it! The MOBO used the same Damn memory hole as the TDAT. what a bummer.
Thanks alot for the input and let me know about any other MOBO's that are good.
P.S. I wrote a post last year about video editing proigrams and pulsar and MOBO's and I am going to give a good update sometime this weekend hopefully. I found out alot and have some good info on windows video editing programs, There are only 3 to mostly consider, Adobie- Premiere, Sony- Vegas, and Pinnacle (now Avid)- liquid. They all will use ASIO drivers with pilsar/scope and Hopefully I can help some of you, It is posted in 'TECH TALK' and of course will pop up first as soon as I post another reply to it again.
Later, This site truly is great for us creamware users.
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Any thoughts on this board it looks to be about the same. Ant after researching It does seem the Intel 815E chipset is the best one.
I did try using the asus P3C-LS with the I820 chipset- utalizing rambus PC600-800. it seemed great and Bought 2 of them new in the box, But unfortunately after loading all of my other boaards I loaded TDAT-16 last and wouldn't you know it! The MOBO used the same Damn memory hole as the TDAT. what a bummer.
Thanks alot for the input and let me know about any other MOBO's that are good.
P.S. I wrote a post last year about video editing proigrams and pulsar and MOBO's and I am going to give a good update sometime this weekend hopefully. I found out alot and have some good info on windows video editing programs, There are only 3 to mostly consider, Adobie- Premiere, Sony- Vegas, and Pinnacle (now Avid)- liquid. They all will use ASIO drivers with pilsar/scope and Hopefully I can help some of you, It is posted in 'TECH TALK' and of course will pop up first as soon as I post another reply to it again.
Later, This site truly is great for us creamware users.
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Hi,
I can confirm that the CUSL2 (without integrated audio), is one of the best boards for Scope (IMHO, that is).
I used it for a long time, but I have now got to the point that I might put it to good use, take my scope cards into it, and use it as a synth monster under win98....
I can confirm that the CUSL2 (without integrated audio), is one of the best boards for Scope (IMHO, that is).
I used it for a long time, but I have now got to the point that I might put it to good use, take my scope cards into it, and use it as a synth monster under win98....
eh, you're right, 
I am a luna(t)ech!
I am a luna(t)ech!And i forgot to say that I talked to a programmer and he told me that windows 98 can only utilize 512MB of ram and any more mostly just gets waisted. so I guess even though the ASUS MOBO's have 3 ram slots and I have 3- 256MB matched kingston ram chips. only 2 of them will be used anyway. so I'll have an extra.
Just FYI
Just FYI
yeah, it's nice that the supportis reflected in the first letter of the board
I mentioned the 'T' version to have all options included, but for a 'mighty synthbox' a Celeron is even preferable.
Clock adjustment is very easy on that board and slightly underclocked (say 1 instead of 1.2 GHZ) it runs with passive cooling (if the piece of metal on the CPU is big enough).
I didn't notice any (significant) advantages for Scope at 133 MHZ with the old Pulsar One - I did not get a 6th masterverb, but 5 of them is pretty good for that oldie.
But since I run a couple of native apps like Triple, CrusherX and DevineMachine it was worth the little extra. The 'new old stock' CPU was 80 Euro if I remember right.
cheers, Tom
I mentioned the 'T' version to have all options included, but for a 'mighty synthbox' a Celeron is even preferable.
Clock adjustment is very easy on that board and slightly underclocked (say 1 instead of 1.2 GHZ) it runs with passive cooling (if the piece of metal on the CPU is big enough).
I didn't notice any (significant) advantages for Scope at 133 MHZ with the old Pulsar One - I did not get a 6th masterverb, but 5 of them is pretty good for that oldie.
But since I run a couple of native apps like Triple, CrusherX and DevineMachine it was worth the little extra. The 'new old stock' CPU was 80 Euro if I remember right.
cheers, Tom
I NEED HELP.
I got the TUSL2-C and laoded windows 98 and updated the OP'Sys and MOBO and tried to load my TDAT 16 and it gave me the same damn error I got using the asus MOBO using the intel 820 chipset --- memory range used by system board extension for ACPI BIOS-- cannot load drivers--- in the device manager. It doesn't even show up in the MOBO's post. I tried a different PCI slot and got the same thing
Please Help! This is extremely pissing me off because the TDAT-16 is the only reason I'm still using PIII's and windows 98 anyway.
I got the TUSL2-C and laoded windows 98 and updated the OP'Sys and MOBO and tried to load my TDAT 16 and it gave me the same damn error I got using the asus MOBO using the intel 820 chipset --- memory range used by system board extension for ACPI BIOS-- cannot load drivers--- in the device manager. It doesn't even show up in the MOBO's post. I tried a different PCI slot and got the same thing
Please Help! This is extremely pissing me off because the TDAT-16 is the only reason I'm still using PIII's and windows 98 anyway.
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could you get access to an arbitrary old system where you can plugin the TDAT to see if it's detected at all ?
I have a TDAT16 that once got a complete amnesia and is braindead since then.
I guess on my board the eeprom failed, which I blamed to my fiddling with it (various drivers, Mac, PC, Sonorus etc) because it didn't run with an AMD chipset (a known fact).
Did you ever touch that mysterious jumper ?
cheers, tom
I have a TDAT16 that once got a complete amnesia and is braindead since then.
I guess on my board the eeprom failed, which I blamed to my fiddling with it (various drivers, Mac, PC, Sonorus etc) because it didn't run with an AMD chipset (a known fact).
Did you ever touch that mysterious jumper ?
cheers, tom
Hey tom
I still do have my Abit BE6-II which I decided today to reload everything on. I've alreafy put it back in and am reformating the harddrive now. but I'm sure it will work. I do vaguely remember paul tanti at the canada creamware office telling me something about how the tdat-16 board didn't work with the intel810 and 815 chipsets and apparently this is right. I also tried an asus Mobo about a year ago which had the I820 chipset in it and got the same message error as I got with the TUSL2-C. I think it is just those chipsets use the same memory hole as the Tdat. After researching all weekend I've now concluded that the fastest intel chipset the TDAT will work on is the 440BX.
Although I.ve been wondering about AMD chipsets. I've alwayse stayed away from AMD in the past but if anybody knows anything about them and TDAT-16 please let my know.
I do know TDAT will work with the VIA chipsets but the pulsar cards won't. At least on the first PIII's they came out with --I think it was called the VIA Apallo PRO chipset On a TYAN mobo I tied once. and paul told me that the pulsar cards won't work with that chipset but maybe there are newer VIA chipsets pulsar would work with. Maybe some of you Pulsar/ scope users might have some info about those.
The main thing is that I have a MOBO that can utalize 133FSB. the FSB determines the amount of tracks TDAT can play back at once. Using 66MHZ FSB Tdat will play back about 24 tracks. At 133FSB I can play back around 42-44 tracks at once.
Some of the AMD boards were getting 266FSB before the P4's came out. I wonder if any of the AMD's would work with TDAT-16 and pulsar cards. Like maybe slot A MOBO's.
I still do have my Abit BE6-II which I decided today to reload everything on. I've alreafy put it back in and am reformating the harddrive now. but I'm sure it will work. I do vaguely remember paul tanti at the canada creamware office telling me something about how the tdat-16 board didn't work with the intel810 and 815 chipsets and apparently this is right. I also tried an asus Mobo about a year ago which had the I820 chipset in it and got the same message error as I got with the TUSL2-C. I think it is just those chipsets use the same memory hole as the Tdat. After researching all weekend I've now concluded that the fastest intel chipset the TDAT will work on is the 440BX.
Although I.ve been wondering about AMD chipsets. I've alwayse stayed away from AMD in the past but if anybody knows anything about them and TDAT-16 please let my know.
I do know TDAT will work with the VIA chipsets but the pulsar cards won't. At least on the first PIII's they came out with --I think it was called the VIA Apallo PRO chipset On a TYAN mobo I tied once. and paul told me that the pulsar cards won't work with that chipset but maybe there are newer VIA chipsets pulsar would work with. Maybe some of you Pulsar/ scope users might have some info about those.
The main thing is that I have a MOBO that can utalize 133FSB. the FSB determines the amount of tracks TDAT can play back at once. Using 66MHZ FSB Tdat will play back about 24 tracks. At 133FSB I can play back around 42-44 tracks at once.
Some of the AMD boards were getting 266FSB before the P4's came out. I wonder if any of the AMD's would work with TDAT-16 and pulsar cards. Like maybe slot A MOBO's.