it`s xmas time ;-)

Lima · Post by **Lima** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:54 am

Hi Marcuspocus, I don't think it's a mistake.
Copied from http://scope.creamware.de/new_in_version45.htm
:

"For a limited time only we offer to upgrade your existing SCOPE system to the software status of version 4.5 – at the very affordable price of just 98 EUR, no matter which product and which version you have today! "

So,I think that they give you THE upgrade not the whole m'n'm or s'n's package for that price.

Worthy in my opinion

Bifop · Post by **Bifop** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:22 am

The only question is, how fast does Ralph send the new keys to online buyers ?!!!
Should be within minutes. I just can't wait !!!

MaoMusique · Post by **MaoMusique** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:30 am

http://scope.creamware.de/scope_project.htm
Synth pack:
-Minimax
-Pro-12
-B2003
-Modular III
-STS-500 (?)
-Vectron

One other page, same Pack:
http://scope.creamware.de/new_in_version45.htm
-SBC SpectralBalance
-Pro-12
-STM-4896
-MasterVerb Pro
-B2003
-STM-48S
-Poison

(????)

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:44 am

B2003, PRO-12 and MINIMAX are SßS-Pack exclusive, which can be a part of project and is a part of professional.

bosone · Post by **bosone** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:27 am

On 2005-12-01 00:58, marcuspocus wrote:
Ok, then, where is your Minimax, which is part of the S&S pack?

And Vectron?

But, i'm pretty amazed that they DID give you 'part' of S&S pack, since you received the key to b2003 and pro12.

I'll look into this more closely... Is this a mistake from cw? A bug in the online system?

If it is, i'll RUN to buy this S&S pack

i have no vectron activated, and for minimax, i owned previoulsy, and i have only one key for it (instead the 2 keys for sts4000, for example, or mixpack1), so i suppose it is not included.

huffcw · Post by **huffcw** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:40 am

This whole thing is so confusing. I wish they would have based what upgrade you get on whether you have no packs, just S&S, just M&M or both packs - rather than basing it on the board you own. That would have made everything easier.

Also, the Creamware web site says that Modular III is included in the Scope Home updgrade - but no key received. The site reads:

"Also, some of the synth highlights that were previously contained in the Synth’n’Sampler pack are now part of the SCOPE home package: welcome the fun-loaded SB-404 and the groovy EDS-16i! Further new arrivals in the synth category are the Poison and the Modular III monster modular. With version 4.5, SCOPE home now features very advanced synth capabilities. While SCOPE home does not provide the DSP performance to use many synth plugins at the same time, it still allows you to explore new sounds and record synth voices in your multitrack environment."

It's a nice package even without Modular III - but their web site shouldn't say you are going to get it if you purchase the upgrade - and then you do not receive it. It's upsetting.

[ This Message was edited by: huffcw on 2005-12-01 05:42 ]

Me$$iah · Post by **Me$$iah** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:57 am

I so agree with much of what has been said here. Im like really intersted in buying this upgrade, but I have no idea which one would be the best for me to buy. I am also confused as to what I would be buying with each version. I own a ScopeHome and a Pulsar2.
Tho I got till the end of Jan to decide, so if everyone who buys in the meantime posts what they recieved,..then Ill like use this info in my descision making.....hehe

Me$$iah

bosone · Post by **bosone** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:21 am

i think the site is misleading in this sense:

the NEW buyess of home/prject boards will receive a particular software package, but this package will be DIFFERENT from the one that older users will receive with the upgrade... (this is my interpreation!!!)

i agree that things are not clear... anyway i could resist to do my upgrade!!

to further clarify:

i PREVIOULSY owned:
mix pack1, modular2,3 sts3000/4000, minimax, optimaster, psyQ
(NO propack!!!)

NOW, after synth/sampler upgrade, i have the key also for:
b2003, pro12, sb404, masterverb pro, SBC, mixpack2 (stm4896+meterbridge), FX pack2 (the one with pattern delay, softclip, etc), EDS 16i, Poison FM

so, at least, ou will receive these...

according to me is a great deal for 98 euro...

b2003 is wonderful, as well as masterverb pro. i didnt tested deeply the pro12 and the other synths/fx yet...

Counterparts · Post by **Counterparts** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:22 am

I've written to Creamware now for some clarification as I have quite a number of the synths & FX which come with v4.5 already so am not sure of "what's in it for me".

I'll post back if & when I get a response!

Royston

replicant · Post by **replicant** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:32 am

Glad to find I'm not the only one confused by this. This must be the most complicated upgrade offer ever offered.

I've written to the info address yesterday but haven't received any reply or statement, hopefully things will get clarified during the coming weeks, but they sure could have made this a lot easier to grasp...

ChampionSound · Post by **ChampionSound** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:39 am

Same question for me. I have a Pulsar2 + 6 DSP SRB without S'n'S or M'n'M pack.
I read some pages back that I have to use the Scope Home upgrade option, if I decide to upgrade (Probably I will). Cool, because I still don't have the extra plugs offered in the new upgrade. (modIII???, EDS-16i, STM4896, SBC...) But since I don't have a scope home card, I want to be sure that there are no disadvantages using this with the rest of my plugs..
So it would be nice if the website shows more scenario's for the different cards with or without the plugin bundles, like Scope Project without a S'n'S or M'n'M pack, that would make it more clear and less confusing.

Anyway, I have nothing to complain and I find this a nice christmas gift for the users who don't have a lot of extra plugins yet

bosone · Post by **bosone** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:46 am

dear championsound... i feel that you can upgrade either with S&S OR the M&M scope project without problems!

ChampionSound · Post by **ChampionSound** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:56 am

Thanks Bosone,

I just read your post that you did the same thing...
I'll upgrade in a week or so

Bifop · Post by **Bifop** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:01 am

Bosone, how long did it took them to send you the keyfile ?

zentropa · Post by **zentropa** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:07 am

bought upgrade yesterday........still waiting for the keys.........

bosone · Post by **bosone** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:08 am

On 2005-12-01 08:01, Bifop wrote:
Bosone, how long did it took them to send you the keyfile ?

ordered in the morning, installed in the evening!!

Bifop · Post by **Bifop** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:21 am

On 2005-12-01 08:08, bosone wrote:
On 2005-12-01 08:01, Bifop wrote:
Bosone, how long did it took them to send you the keyfile ?

ordered in the morning, installed in the evening!!

Lucky b*!#?rd !!
Ordered yesterday. Waiting today.

erminardi · Post by **erminardi** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:54 am

I'm still waiting from 2 days... Creamware has a hard work to finish off =)

I cannot wait any more!!! =) =) =)

Me$$iah · Post by **Me$$iah** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:19 am

Ive not emailed creamware yet to ask about the variations....I figure theyve got enough traffik to deal with at the mo...Ill just wait till someone posts info here

cool ..Ilove this site

Me$$iah

Bifop · Post by **Bifop** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:20 am

excerpt from the 4.5 form :

... and SHORTLY after the purchase transaction we will send you the referring Activation Key for your SCOPE system via email.

Clever guys, they didn't indicate any time frame to deliver the keys... It can take as long as they want now.