Dumb question maybe(well probabaly)

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Atomic Marshmallow
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Post by Atomic Marshmallow »

Ok well, as the thread says, this may qualify as a dumb question and my apologies in advance!!

I still use Logic 5.5.1 but haven't used effects when I record within logic but would like to. Now when I want to hear the effects applied as I am playing/recording I have to increase the volume in my mixer track, but when I do this, the signal goes into two channels of the mixer within Scope. I mean that channels one and two register a signal. I don't want this (or is this unavoidable), as it creates a kind of doubling effect. Whereas, if I don't want to use effects and turn the mixer down within logic I get just one signal in one channel which makes sense to me.
Basically I am saying I want to be able to hear the effects within Logic without having 2 channels used up in the Scope mixer as it annoying due to the doubling effect.

Can anyone explain?

I hope what I have just written makes sense!!
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Post by djmicron »

it depends by your routing setup.
please describe the setup connections you are using.
Micron

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Atomic Marshmallow
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Post by Atomic Marshmallow »

How do I post a picture of my routing set up?

Thanks
djmicron
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Post by djmicron »

in this forum section it's not allowed, but you can use a service such as http://www.yousendit.com/
or
http://www.megaupload.com/

and then post here the link :smile:
Atomic Marshmallow
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Post by Atomic Marshmallow »

Hi,

I have used the services of "yousendit.com".

Here is the link to my .jpg file called ;

New Routing.jpg

The link is;

http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2KML ... K5HO2TIQZT

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Post by ScofieldKid »

I'll take a guess at this.

It appears from your picture that you have your analog input tied to your analog output. If you have an analog mixer, and you have the input track enabled on the analog mixer, I think you would get a pretty big feedback loop.

You might just wire your analog input directly to ASIO Dest tracks one and two. That would make it so that your Logic software would have control over that signal.

The other trick I use sometimes is to make sure that direct-outs do not line up with direct-ins. So if your ASIO Src and ASIO Dest are on completely different numbers, it can also help you avoid software feedback loops.

I think there are other ways to do this, but one of those might help.
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Post by Atomic Marshmallow »

Thanks for your response SchofieldKid. Though I don't see where my analog input is connected to my analog output?? Could you explain further by what you said;

"If you have an analog mixer, and you have the input track enabled on the analog mixer, I think you would get a pretty big feedback loop."

Where exactly am I making that mistake?

I will try your other suggestions and thanks for your response. It is very much appreciated!!!
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Post by Atomic Marshmallow »

Well, thanks SchofieldKid for your advice because it worked!!! The only thing I changed was wire my analog input directly to ASIO Dest tracks one and two (everything else is the same). I am eternally grateful!!!
Why couldn't I think of that? Well one reason is I don't know about these technical sort of things and maybe my inherent stupidity.
Now that you see how I have set up my project up, do you have any other comments to make to "improve" it, or is it OK as it is?

Thank you again for your help!!!

PS. Actually, I have just thought of something. I want to connect my external effects unit ( I have done this via ADAT). Are they in the right inputs in the mixer? I am not sure what the RT inputs and DL outputs in the mixer are for (again excuse my ignorance). I have never used a hardware mixer so once again it explains my lack of knowledge in this department.

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