CopyProtectionViolations Errors

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Thu Nov 01, 2001 11:01 am

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at0m · Post by **at0m** » Thu Nov 08, 2001 12:31 pm

WILL IT HELP TO UNINSTALL THE WHOLE LOAD AND PUT IT BACK ON? DO I FORMAT? WHAT DO I DO SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME I GO CRAZZZZzzZZZZYYYY

geez!

a t

m i c.

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at0m · Post by **at0m** » Thu Nov 08, 2001 12:43 pm

Is there a way not to loose one of 2 CPU's and have the 2 Pulsars not under 1 W2k IRQ?
My machine uses IRQ' between 0-128, is that because of that IRQ sharing thing?

Maybe under W2k the board constantly swap positions, so that the Pulsar Registration always sees (virtually) card swaps? Maybe, but the same problem would occur with video/network/scsi cards or FDD/keyb/... irq then, not only on dual Pulsar systems.

Maybe not if I installed 'Standard PC', but then I'd loose my 2nd CPU. Last time I played with 'Standard PC/ MPS Multiprocessor PC', I had to format c: to get everything back up and running.

The testcase.

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at0m · Post by **at0m** » Sun Nov 18, 2001 7:47 am

Made different hardware configurations now, is easier than format c:

test
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EarlyFirst · Post by **EarlyFirst** » Wed Nov 21, 2001 2:15 pm

for both of you look at the *new* support pdf this is known problem ....pg10

Atomic I'll have the same board soon ;0

Also GET XP!!! much better with the ACPI, and after you turn the eye candy off. as most of you don't have Geforces *WHICH supports the XP interface via HARDWARE so you don't have to take a hit on performance* should get the same perf as 2K sp2 with no perky interface....

I have 3 boards in one machine on a single cpu right now running XP....The day after I tested XP I formated my 2K install

I installed everything without a hitch I was AMAZED!! Compared to the bull I had to do to get 2K to work nicely *even before installing my cards**

also you may tweak the cset to get rid of the show windows while move

***thanks to Seth****

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Thu Nov 22, 2001 4:48 pm

Hi,

EarlyFirst, same board- do you mean the Acorp? Yer getting the Acorp? COOL!

Running XP for a 4/5days now. It installed and runs smooth! But I have to get rid of that XP smoothness, cos I need more midi stability in Cubase. Gonna take a look at some tuning tips.

Btw, I'm getting new PulsarII and Luna Breakoutbox. Guess we'll have exact same setup then

What memory are you going to put on it? I have 256mb/133CAS3, but I'd like to upgrade. Maybe ad some more of the same type, or maybe get CAS2 or so.

About the 'show windows while move': I read somewhere that if Video Hardware Acceleration is enabled, the Video card will handle the processing, NOT the CPU. Following that, there will be less memory read/write from/to Video card. You will save PCI bandwith!

From the Support.pdf pg10:

Know
- With dual-CPU systems, the following
occur regularly:
- PCI Master Overflows
- Copy Protection Faults / „Don’t mess
around with the Copy Protection.“
(Appears in the form of a key request,
in which the actual error message is
hidden by the Key Request dialog).

I must confirm that I've *NEVER* had a PCI Master overflow on this Acorp 6A815EPD1.

the atom.

ps- I hope no other users will experience this problem. It's no fun if the errors keep poppin' up!
_________________
Go Fruity !

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Dareinsch · Post by **Dareinsch** » Thu Nov 22, 2001 6:28 pm

got the same problem!
i use win XP pro on asus P4T-E, P4 1800ghz 512MB, 2 pulsar1 and one powersampler.
fresh OS, only pulsar 3.01 including Modular2 installed. happens when loading devices or projects.
i am spending twice the time to configure my
audio system than making music....

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Thu Nov 22, 2001 8:08 pm

You do not have a dual cpu configuration, and you have the same prob?? Now that's remarkable!

Lately, sometimes I get the errors, but XP lets me restart Pulsar very fast.

Hope that's sorted out quick!

the atom.

Havoc · Post by **Havoc** » Thu Nov 22, 2001 11:07 pm

I got the same error once on my Tyan S2460. Just closed the window and it hasn't come back yet. Did not fill anything in. Only problem remaining is the PCI error.

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Fri Nov 23, 2001 12:51 am

Have any of you guys tried cracked CW plugins? No offense or anything, but I've never seen this, you think this is a driver bug or hardware related? Can you give me a way to reproduce it on my box?

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Fri Nov 23, 2001 7:50 am

I have never tried to install a cracked Creamware Plugin.

I had to do a workaround to install STW 4080L though, I didn't go thru STW setup but copied the files needed for STW4080L into Pulsar folders (as suggested by STW crew)

I cannot forward the 4080L files to someone else for testing, cos they're regged on my card.

When I installed them last week (XP), I did 4080L install as last. Copied all files into their respective folders. When I loaded Pulsar and STW fx, no more REG was required

the atom.

ARE YOU OTHER PEOPLE WITH THE SAME PROBLEM USING ANY EXTRA REGISTERED PLUGINS?

I have
-Pulsar Software
-STS-3000
-Modular 2
-Pulsar Software
-Pulsar ProPack
-RM242
-Elektra/Modular2

PLEASE WE NEED TO HELP CREAMWARE TO SORT THAT OUT. Provide all relevant info please!
We need to get rid of this problem (it's no longer annoying me so bad, but still... it's no good.)

atomic.

Dareinsch · Post by **Dareinsch** » Fri Nov 23, 2001 3:47 pm

never tried any cracked stuff!
obviously no one with this problem under win9x? anyone with no pulsar1 involved?

Oscillation · Post by **Oscillation** » Sat Nov 24, 2001 1:41 am

I've just got my dual cpu PIII Machine last week and i've had nothing but problems too with my Pulsar2 Card. Keep getting Copy Protection errors when Pulsar tries too boot up the devices, I've never installed any Cracked CW software neither??
Running on a VIA Chipset dual mobo, which at first i assume was the via chipset but somehow i believe the Pulsar software is somehow responsible??
It does not want to work on Windows 2k SP2 or Windows XP ACPI/MPS ( HAL ). Only works correctly when i install in Standard PC mode ( HAL ) but what good is that to me???? I thought the whole idea of a dual cpu was to have 2 CPU's at your disposal not downgrade to using only 1???
It would be nice if creamware came up with a fix as it seems this problem has been around for a while. I remember some guy called "SUPERSAW" in the CW forum first bringing this matter up although rather strongly stating incompatability with dual cpu's and Pulsar. Was he right?? I'm starting to think so??

Havoc · Post by **Havoc** » Sat Nov 24, 2001 2:57 am

I'm afraid supersaw is right. Pulsar does not work with duals. This is something that has to be solved by creamware because none of the regular tweaking helps.

Oscillation · Post by **Oscillation** » Sat Nov 24, 2001 4:36 am

Does creamware know of this problem?
Are they acting on it?
Has any user ( dual systems ) with this or any other compatability problem got a response from Creamware Support. I have failed to get a reply from support.de??
I would like to know what Creamware are doing, if anything at all.

Havoc · Post by **Havoc** » Sat Nov 24, 2001 10:50 am

Again, supersaw mentioned earlier in this thread that creamware lists duals as "not recomended".

Don't feel bad about not getting a reply from creamware: almost nobody ever has. Go over to the creamware forum, you will understand.

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Sat Nov 24, 2001 1:27 pm

The main thing is, for audio, there is hardly any gain for the price you're paying, for a dual vs. a single CPU.

Also for a DSP system that doesn't depend so much on host CPU, the point becomes even smaller. Dual CPUs are excellent for graphics, but for realtime systems like audio, with the audio software currently barely even running on 2cpus (Cubase only puts the MIDI engine on the second CPU, all audio and audio generating plugins are still on one CPU) with any benefit...

That said, Dual CPUs DO work, there are a few people running Dual P4 Xeons on the i860 chipset without too many problems with Windows XP (and this is what I originally reported as the working dual system), also there are i815 dual users, with the only problem being this copyprotection thing (and a solution has been found).

Finally our (Infinite Vortex) experience with the dual AthonMP/Tyan Tiger board was really disappointing so far. We got the rev1 board, and it was very buggy, so we're RMAing it for the newer rev3 board. Under Win2k, WinXP, ACPI/MPS, etc, we weren't even able to load ONE reverb. Finally we found there are some .REG files on Tyan's site, which, if applied to our Win2k install, would allow one masterVerb. The PCI performance of this board leaves a lot to be desired. We'll retest again, but at this point I am not seeing really any advantage of going dual CPU with a Creamware DSP system... Unless you have the cash for the i860 system.

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Sat Nov 24, 2001 1:32 pm

...Or want the 1GHz, 512meg ram limit of the Acorp i815 board... (Which is difficult to find in most places, as it was only a small production run.)

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Sat Nov 24, 2001 1:46 pm

This will be interesting to watch, too:
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... &forum=5&1

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Sat Nov 24, 2001 2:29 pm

Subhuman wrote:

"The main thing is, for audio, there is hardly any gain for the price you're paying, for a dual vs. a single CPU."

Not if you are using Cubase for mixing. Steinberg Jones says that there is a 50% increase in performance for Cubase which is important if you are using a lot of VST effects.