Hubble Connection?

Ditty · Post by **Ditty** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:12 am

http://hubblesite.org/

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 5:58 pm

http://www.frontiermultimedia.com/deepspace.htm

Post by **hubird** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 6:47 pm

nature is art

Post by **hubird** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 5:50 pm

as is art

narly · Post by **narly** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:57 pm

@Ditty; Hubblesite logo is somewhat CW'ish, yes?

I assume that's the connection you meant?

...ditto's on comments regarding nature's awesome beauty...

[ This Message was edited by: narly on 2005-07-03 22:58 ]

Post by **hubird** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:07 am

didn't get that indeed

Counterparts · Post by **Counterparts** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:27 am

Hmmm..?

Ditty · Post by **Ditty** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:15 am

After a breathtaking view i got inspired to look for more and came across the "scope" logo

Great stuff all round

Check these pages for the images.
http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsde ... /category/
http://hubble.nasa.gov/multimedia/astronomy.php

[ This Message was edited by: Ditty on 2005-07-05 04:16 ]

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:08 am

Is anyone saying there's no life in any one of these galaxies:

(very large image here (100MB TIFF): http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsde ... age/a+warn )

This is the deepest view of Hubble. The galaxies are so far from us that they might not even exist now. The light from those galaxies that reached Hubble, traveled millions or billions of light years.

[ This Message was edited by: BingoTheClowno on 2005-07-05 08:23 ]

Counterparts · Post by **Counterparts** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:29 am

"It's life Jim, but not as we know it..."

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:17 pm

On 2005-07-05 12:05, stardust wrote:
Bingo..interesting question.

But have you figured out how many 'accidents' led to live on earth.
And even this earth is already an accident.

Just some examples:

Sun is star that lives 10 Billion years
It has solid planets because some 100 millions before her birth a supernova exploded in the vicinity to produce the heavy elements needed.
Sun did not, like many other stars do build a double star system.
If she would have, there would be no planets, because there are no stable orbits in such systems.
Sun lives between two arms of the Galaxy for a Loooong time now avoiding collisions with gas and matter clouds.
Sun has enough distance from galaxy center in order to get the 'fruitful' heavy metal rain (no not the music) necessary to enrich metals and heavy elements.
Earth collided with a biiig aseroid and did not explode to pieces but formed afterwards the aerth moon pair.
Without this there would be a much shorter day, another earth axis direction and as consequence of that a diffrent and rougher climate.
The heavy elements and their ratio were able to bind oxygen early enough before it would have been lost in space by vaporing from athmosphere

etc. etc.

Every day a new accident is discovered

Are you implying that someone else had a hand in making sure of Earth's conception and survival? God maybe?
If you look at it statisticaly, you may see that these accidents are quite possible.

Post by **hubird** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:56 pm

but useless quoting large parts of text makes the universe even bigger!

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:30 pm

If humans were a sort of divine creature with amazing powers and heavenly grace then I'd think it something pretty special and mysterious.

But we're such delicate, stupid, angry, tormented, violent, love-struck, individual, and sickly creatures, that I think we must be part of universe's "standard muck".

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:05 pm

On 2005-07-05 12:05, stardust wrote:
Bingo..interesting question.

But have you figured out how many 'accidents' led to live on earth.
And even this earth is already an accident.

Just some examples:
...

have you figured out how many galaxies that pic shows ? I guess you know the number of stars in a galaxy, roughly

that pic probably doesn't even cover 1/100.000 of the sky, so statistically there should be millions of lifeforms, even similiar to our own version.

but since some of the objects shown on such pics aren't supposed to exit at all (their spectral red shift makes them older than the 'universe', according to contemporary theories) - who knows...

anyway, I like that stuff and loaded the big picture, too - btw writing this on a revitalized PM7600 under OSX10.2.8 - something that wasn't supposed to exist by Apple - and the machine only faked it's death, probably it was just lazy, so almost counts as a lifeform

cheers, Tom

Post by **hubird** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:44 am

On 2005-07-05 22:05, astroman wrote:
btw writing this on a revitalized PM7600 under OSX10.2.8

d*mn

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:00 am

On 2005-07-05 19:56, hubird wrote:
useless quoting makes universe bigger!

I'll remember that

Post by **garyb** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:49 am

On 2005-07-05 22:05, astroman wrote:
btw writing this on a revitalized PM7600 under OSX10.2.8 cheers, Tom

nerd.

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:46 pm

...
but since some of the objects shown on such pics aren't supposed to exist at all (their spectral red shift makes them older than the 'universe', according to contemporary theories) - who knows...

That qualifies them as ghosts

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:39 am

On 2005-07-05 07:08, BingoTheClowno wrote:
Is anyone saying there's no life in any one of these galaxies:

(very large image here (100MB TIFF): http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsde ... age/a+warn )
This is the deepest view of Hubble. ...

well, I loaded the 6000x6000 original and found it worth quoting once again.

the true dimensions of that thing are impossible to imagine, but some numbers may point in the direction:

our own galaxy consists of an estimated 100 billion stars.
Have a close look at the pic: there are no more than 4 stars (the round things with spikey artifacts caused by the optic) from our local galaxy visible - everything else is also a complete galaxy of (at least) the same number of stars as our own.

While this is a peek along 4 stars, how does the space between the remaining 99.999.999.996 look ?

ok, this is deliberately exaggerating as it doesn't take shape and uneven distribution of stars into account, but even if you assume we're just sourrounded by 1 tenthousandth of the galaxy's stars there'd be 1 million repetitions of this view... where each dot represents 100 billion stars...

go figure statistics and importance

cheers, Tom

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Post by **garyb** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:56 am

and some people think that they know something!