ASIO SCOPE in Nuendo -> Blue Screen

Post by **garyb** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:48 am

On 2005-06-05 03:09, kosmarv wrote:
I think it's a problem with CREAMWARE and the arrival of the new technology.Creamware should update pulsar's I drivers in order to work with newer chipsets and cpus.So,it's not our's computer problem (we are two persons whith the same setup in this forum)but Creamware's business...

cwa is not required to support pulsar1 at all!

there are MAJOR changes happening in the pc world. it is unwise to jump to the front at this time. you may find yourself with rambus technology......

forums are full of amd64s with this error in all kinds of systems, google the error like i did. next year, a 64bit system may be the ONLY choice. but my machine will still work fine. i'll only need to upgrade because i want to, not because my hard and software won't produce good enough results. in fact, i could use this stuff for another 10 years and the only reason that i wouldn't be capable of doing stellar work would be my lack of talent for it. it should be the same for you, and it could be if you figure the problem out. of course a 32bit processor and motherboard would be a functional slam dunk and would perform on the same level as the 64bit machine(remember, there's no 64bit software to speak of), but you've already spent money, so suck it up and figure it out.

there's still no problem with cwa cards and the intel 925 chipset, which is a very current offering, so it's not just "new" chipsets that are the problem, but via it seems, as always.

if you read the literature, it seems that a poor, faulty or underpowered power supply can also be the culprit, and with an amd64, 2gb of memory, a pulsar, and a couple of hard drives, and some peripherals, an over-taxed power supply is a likely problem as well.

good luck(really!)!

[ This Message was edited by: garyb on 2005-06-05 03:51 ]

kosmarv · Post by **kosmarv** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:27 am

Thank you!

the problem is that creamware doesn't exist at all...dissapeared...like a ghost...NO support, (I emailed them 4 times till now), NO new plug-ins, NO future plans...A serious industry ALWAYS AND CONTINUOUSLY follow the tech (mostly if its product doesn't work per se but needs a Pc or a Mac) and supports its products (if cares about its clients, if not,...no prob at all).
Anyway, I jumped to 915 chipset with P4 3,2 hoping that this time my favorite audio card works fine

symbiote · Post by **symbiote** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:14 am

OMG I've just seen a ghost! Check it out:

And here's another one!

BTW, if you want a list of "serious" companies that stop supporting older soundcards/drivers, just mail me (*cough* korg oasys *cough* digidesign *cough*)

kosmarv · Post by **kosmarv** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:26 pm

So...Creamware was supposed to be a SYNTH company..like korg...

Ok, then I was mistaken...thought it was a computer audio hardware company...

You know,is something like...you decide one day to create an industry for making autos and then...in time....you discover...that you like more making bicycles...

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Post by **garyb** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:06 pm

new shimmer is a floor polish. no, it's a dessert topping, no it's both! new shimmer is a floor wax AND a great dessert topping!

apologies to chevy chase and the cast of snl...(and to europeans or asians or young people who never saw them..)

[ This Message was edited by: garyb on 2005-06-07 00:07 ]

symbiote · Post by **symbiote** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:58 am

On 2005-06-06 23:26, kosmarv wrote:
So...Creamware was supposed to be a SYNTH company..like korg...

Ok, then I was mistaken...thought it was a computer audio hardware company...

Actually, most of their income, as far as I know, comes from selling their system to broadcasting entities (radio stations etc) and selling their full development system to other audio hardware companies, NOT from people who buy their systems for music and audio production (they would have folded a long time ago if they did.)

I don't think they signed an obligation contract with anyone stipulating that they should limit their business to strictly audio/music, and they had already dabbled in the stand-alone synth market segment with the Noah.

I was merely pointing out that they are not a dead company with no plans at all, sorry if it was a bit harsh.

Moreover, and I doubt anyone cares about my opinion on the subject but I'll give it out anyway, I think they are doing the right thing, since soon enough, you'll need to keep several computers to run all the software synthesis/processing stuff you've bought over the years, since they won't necessairly be running on newer hardware/software (thinking of what's happening with Mac switching CPU architecture, remebering the Oasys card, etc.) Which kind of defeats the idea of moving toward a strictly-software based setup in the first case, as in the long run the several computers will end up eating alot more space than a bunch of compact hardware boxes. I don't think the future is with USB or Firewire or PCI-XYZ, I think raw audio inputs/outputs will remain the norm for years to come.

RockEngineer · Post by **RockEngineer** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:48 am

PROBLEM SOLVED!

I'm awfully sorry, kosmarv, that I have to suggest you this: Throw your ASUS mainboard away!!

I changed to Gigabytes GA-K8NSC-939 with a Venice core on it and everthing is working fine now! I decided to buy this (cheaper) one because it doesn't have any extraordinary features and because there is a NVIDIA 3 chipset on it. Unfortunatly it's NOT an NVIDIA 3 ultra - but the only difference seems to be a lower HyperTransport frequency support. Maybe the GA-K8NSU-939 is working as well with Pulsar cards.
By the way: the active chipset cooler is not that noisy!

My problem was the mainboard - without a doubt. My old graphic-card Matrox G450 didn't work on the ASUS board either. With Gigabyte there's no problem!

A statement to the 64bit discussion:
There are several companies developing 64bit drivers for their products - EVEN FOR THEIR DISCONTINUED PRODUCTS, CREAMWARE! That's a good service!
I want to jump on the 64bit train as soon as there is a well-working OS. I know that Nuendo is already able to support that technology and please imagine the consequences for your performance then! I hope, that the old/new? drivers for Pulsar cards in general will be working with it, too.
It would be very sad if I had to remove my creamware equipment out of a 64bit system!

Best wishes,
Ulrich

Post by **garyb** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:51 am

VERY glad you've gotten it going.
there are no significant, real-world advantages or true 64bit software YET.

RockEngineer · Post by **RockEngineer** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:11 am

Hi gary,

you are really quick

It's true that Nuendo is not supporting NATIVE 64bit YET - but this will follow...Steinberg is working on it.
I don't have to take care for other software because there's only Nuendo running on my musicproduction-system.

Best wishes,
Ulrich

valis · Post by **valis** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:09 pm

RME hasn't got 64bit drivers yet either, and Steinberg repackages the RME Hammerfall+Multiface as the 'Steinberg Nuendo' audio interface (they change the screen printing on the front). When they do, and if you truly MUST have 64bits NOW, I suggest using an RME Multiface or Fireface in your main DAW with Nuendo and WinXP64, and using adat & midi to connect to your Scope cards in a 2nd machine (running WinXp or 2k). I do this now and it works fine even for my 32bit OS's.

On 2005-06-06 10:14, symbiote wrote:
BTW, if you want a list of "serious" companies that stop supporting older soundcards/drivers, just mail me (*cough* korg oasys *cough* digidesign *cough*)

*cough* Yamaha *cough*

[ This Message was edited by: valis on 2005-06-07 13:09 ]