Halleluja - In Guns We Trust!

emzee · Post by **emzee** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:20 am

We get the leaders we deserve. If the US public don't want them, they'll get rid of them at the next poll.

krizrox · Post by **krizrox** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:26 am

On 2005-04-28 08:52, bosone wrote:
but what if i lived in florida, and thought that THIS law is a MAJOR threat to my security?
would i be allowed to shoot to mr bush? he (and his brother) is the real threat to humankind!

Yeah right. What the world really needs are more "piece-loving" politicians like this:

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/enter ... icciolina/

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:21 am

"We get the leaders we deserve. If the US public don't want them, they'll get rid of them at the next poll. "

As if. Last election the Americans were choosing between the same thing. Skull and Bones! And still believe they can choose their president.

Well I have some bad news for you, next president will be a "Skull&Boner". Could be Arnold , since he's a member of that secret society or some other member.

&^%$#@!

Casper

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:26 am

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/enter ... rzenegger/

yak

Casper

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:25 pm

On 2005-04-28 05:41, Casper wrote:
...The bad guys will only take more drastic measures to get what they want. They often just point there guns and just tell you to put the money in the bag. ...

do you really believe that a thug knowing you're armed will politely ask ?

I doubt that Mr GdoublU is the most bright person on that continent, but THAT definetely is NOT his fault (or responsibility).

In the US you can rent an hour at a machine gun just for fun and that service is somewhat requested - by whom ... ?

your dutch TV probably isn't that different from out German one, so switch it on for regular early evening series BS. When is a conflict solved by one smart a** without producing a gun ? Never.

As GaryB wrote: people just like that style, giving them power, making them big.
It's the majority, not a single person at the top - which doesn't exclude that their mental capabilities may corelate nevertheless...

We've quite some restriction on weapons here, but a British army officer once told me (they regularily check civil cars of external service staff), you'd be amazed how many people ride along with a shotgun in their car, it's incredible'.

The US is known for their loose legislative handling of gun posession - but it's not that much different here, just unofficial.

The law noticed above just puts a certain legal context on a case which will in no way be changed by it's existance - for the simple fact that the situation in question has no time left for reasoning.

cheers, Tom

paulrmartin · Post by **paulrmartin** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:07 pm

You want "Juice"? Get an education, not a gun...

Casper · Post by **Casper** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:52 am

quote:
do you really believe that a thug knowing you're armed will politely ask ?

Tom , that's my point. They won't politely ask. Since they know you may be armed.
So I think you missread or something..

cheers,

Casper

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:03 am

I don't think so

...They often just point there guns and just tell you to put the money in the bag. Now they will first shoot you just to be sure you won't shoot them first

if they'd suspect you're able to defend yourself, they'd shoot you anyway, regardless of your state of legitimation - that law doesn't enforce anything.

aside from that it's complete nonsense to talk about such circumstances the academic way.
You do react react predictibly in life (or seriously health) threatening situations - at least that's my experience.

cheers, Tom

emzee · Post by **emzee** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 6:39 am

What Americans do in their own country is up to them, I say. The real issue for outsiders is if we accept what they do OUTSIDE their country.

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 6:50 am

Violence is not the answer to violence. Some people do not agree with this. This is the essence of the debate.

The president personifies the wild west mentality. Although he led a life of privilege, he wants people to think that he is a common man and Americans want guns, love revenge and need a scapegoat for all of their problems.

There is a growing divide among rural ignorant people and urban cosmopolitan people. Some of the republican party are taking advantage of this. They themselves may not be religious or hunters or gun owners but they cater to those people in order to win votes and advance their agenda which is total capitalism with no regard for the suffering of the poor. It's a shame that healthcare and
education takes a distant back seat to tax breaks for the wealthy and defense.

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:01 pm

On 2005-04-29 07:50, braincell wrote:
Violence is not the answer to violence. Some people do not agree with this.

This is not a question of violence but one of life preservation. I agree that violence is not an answer to violence, but when one's life is threatened there's no other choice.

[ This Message was edited by: BingoTheClowno on 2005-04-29 14:15 ]

Post by **Guest** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:30 pm

Now that bad guys with guns know that the public will be armed are more likely to shoot first without hesitation.

Stupid laws like this one will make bad guys trigger happy .

sometimes in situation like this you may need to get out and whoever is with you alive and hell with material things be a car/cash or whatever.

again the mentality of you with a gun and I with a gun let see who draw faster will cause more loss of life.

maybe smarter laws should be applied to the US population like the US proposed for the iraqi resistance fighters.

But then again the US goverment may choose to apply laws on other people than their own.

I feel sorry for those who will loose their lives as a result of this NRA law.

I wonder what's the % of profit the BUSH Clan makes on gun sales after this law?

any one knows?

[ This Message was edited by: antar on 2005-04-29 18:10 ]

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:36 pm

If you are threatened the only choice is to shoot the offender? Come on now; You know that isn't true.

On 2005-04-29 14:01, BingoTheClowno wrote:
On 2005-04-29 07:50, braincell wrote:
Violence is not the answer to violence. Some people do not agree with this.
This is not a question of violence but one of life preservation. I agree that violence is not an answer to violence, but when one's life is threatened there's no other choice.

[ This Message was edited by: BingoTheClowno on 2005-04-29 14:15 ]