any chance price fall TFT monitors soon?

Post by **hubird** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:38 am

Is there any chance that TFT monitors will see a price fall in the next future, say two or three months?
Like happened in october last year, after a new production fabric (by?) was started.

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samplaire · Post by **samplaire** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:53 pm

Zer · Post by **Zer** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:58 pm

If you know Aldi...they sold 17" last week for about 99 Euros and 19" for about 199 Euros.

Post by **hubird** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:17 pm

On 2005-03-16 12:53, samplaire wrote:
Yes

Thanks Sam, I believe you blindly, but if you know a site where it is documented, I would be pleased

Zer, I know Aldi, I got my hands on a set of cheap skates some time ago

But I have an eye on (digital/analog) ViewSonic PB191S, specially as they are designed for multiple display configuration.
Small bezel, and even an (optional) single stand for head-only models (no base).

http://www.ViewSonic.com/products/deskt ... es/vp191s/
http://www.ViewSonic.com/multipanelsetup/

edit: oh, thanks Stardust, at least I will wait a few weeks

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Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:22 pm

unless you want them on top of each other (hardly very ergonomically), then I personally have a hard time seeing the benefit with this particular monitor. It is mainly your graphics card needing to be multimonitor capable.

Stubbe · Post by **Stubbe** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:22 pm

I think the prices are dropping slowly all the time, Here in Denmark it is quite easy to keep an eye on the prices on http://www.edbpriser.dk (sorry only in danish, this is just an example), I guess that similar services exist all over.

If you go tothis page, you will see a graph going 8 weeks back (bottom of the page, uge = week) showing that the price for the Viewsonic has not dropped significantly, apart from one week, after which the price recovered.

You might want to check out Samsung or LG displays, they are running a very hard pricewar on each other ATM, driving down the cost,
example here is a totally randomly chosen 19". It has dropped something like 20% in 8 weeks !

It's quite amazing, but I read somewhere that this page, more or less alone, had forced the competition on computer parts to such a degree, that Denmark - which is in almost every other aspect an expensive country - now have some of the lowest computerparts prices in Europe. Worth a thought if it's true

Personally, I have fallen in love with Apple's 23" widescreen (dropped a respectable 20% in early january), an impossible love maybe, but yummy it looks good !

Good hunt!
Stubbe

samplaire · Post by **samplaire** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:03 pm

On 2005-03-16 14:17, hubird wrote:
Thanks Sam, I believe you blindly, but if you know a site where it is documented, I would be pleased

Here you are

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:09 pm

Post by **hubird** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:23 pm

@Immanuel, I could spare a €100,- by choosing an other comparable brand, the differences are mainly weight, physical depth, and bezel.
The single stand does the looks, btw - I love the free space on the shelf

@Stubbe, lucky position you have

For Several months now my favorite ViewSonic is priced about €5o8,-.
I didn't follow other TFT's, so thanks for your reseach

Looks hopefully.
Time is on my side, I believe

I was checking for a technological or market bound reason for a sudden new pricefall.
You know that feeling, when you buy something and one day later you find it back in the sales corner?
That's what I don't wanne do to myself

@Sam,

Stubbe · Post by **Stubbe** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:48 am

For Several months now my favorite ViewSonic is priced about €5o8,-.

Actually, that is not a bad price at all, here it would cost appr. €550 incl. freight from a shop I would trust.

Good luck!

Stubbe

Post by **hubird** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:46 am

MSRP is €559,-, according to ViewSonicdotcom.
So I consider the €508,- (excl. freight of €30,- outside Germany) not as a bargain

This is where I saw the €508,- price setting:
http://www.mindfactory.de/
(it's huge, 20.000 user online is quite normal).
Monitors are booked in 'peripherie', just to let you know.

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astroman · Post by **astroman** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:32 pm

ALDI s*cks

but I like mom Albrecht's statement ...the worse it gets for people, the more money we make...

Zer · Post by **Zer** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:06 am

I dunno and I don' t like the statement - I mean I´m a worker in germany I don`t wanna have an imported us-system without a given minimum salary, polish income and no payable insurances. For americans it seems always that I`m some sort of communist

But they have the cheapest TFT`s in store.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:04 pm

then, what's the problem ?
buy their 'cheapest monitors' - and accept that employers buy manpower for cheapest wages...

it's that simple, Tom

Post by **hubird** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:02 pm

not exactly, Astro, there's more

In Holland the union made a dossier of several meters, all concerning severe complaints of employers, local managers included.
Aldi has been judged several times already.
The owners, never showing themselves or reacting to anything in public, manage the firm like old style capitalists.
The law is the only frontier, and they wait and let you prove you're right...

But I went back to this thread, to tell you that I earned 2 times € 26,- by not buying sofar

I wonder what would have been the price if the SonicVision TFT's were European instead of from USA...

They're still my choice however, so sad the optional single multi-monitor stand costs 265,- USdollar...
And I believe the 'head-only's' aren't cheaper than the stand models.
cheers.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:25 am

recently my PC seller heavily complained about eyestress from a cheapo TFT, it was a Phillips (ouch...)

They try them out themselves when new models appear.

I have a 17" IIyama 431S which I consider a solid performer, but definetely not as good as the original Apple 17" Studio Display (which we have in the office).
If the difference justifies double the price is up to personal prefs, at least it's very obvious and not marginally.

btw that accept that employers buy manpower for cheapest wages... wasn't targeted at ALDI, it was directed at ALDI customers who complain about cheap foreign workers

cheers, Tom

Post by **garyb** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:41 am

just got an offer from global computers of a $147us 17".....

Post by **hubird** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:06 am

@Astro, I also have a Philips (but 17# CRT), at my pc, and it's terrible, you can experience those interference 'waves' on the screen

I should not have bought it!
BTW, I took you wrong indeed, about the Aldi thing

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BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:12 am

http://www.globalcomputer.com/applicati ... E=GLOEM119

Chinese most likely...

Post by **hubird** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:01 pm

all 19" TFT below €300,- there.
quite cheap indeed.
Anyone knows if these models offer the same longterm quality?
What about fallout of screen transistors?
Or is it just a thing of low wages etc.?
Hard questions probably, who knows much of this part of the market, sigh