A big hello to all PLANET Zers
WOW! What a forum. There is just sooooo much information available. All you Guys and Gals who post regulary should allow yourselves at least 30 minutes of smugness each day for the quality of this Creamware haven. I have been a member for a couple of weeks-ish and from my point of view, the thing that really makes this forum stand out is the willingness to help the little man (thats me), the newbie (me too), the guy who thinks a delay is something you get stuck in on the way to the airport(oh, thats me again). So many computer or technology based forums suffer from what could be called knowledge snobbery or academic elitism. They start off with the intention of helping everyone but soon end up being mutual back slapping arenas for intellectuals and boffins only, with no real interest in helping the beginner become part of their clique. Some even manage to scare off beginners before they have even had the opportunity to learn something. When you join a forum as a complete rookie, there is nothing worse than posting your first few (with hindsight obviously stupid) questions, only to get a) no response and b) that noise in your speakers that sounds like some kind of electronic mockery, tinged with the hint of virtual sarcasm your question produced. The word disheartening springs to mind.
This place seems totally different though. Novices actually seem to be valued as a testbed for communicating the basics (which is handy for me). There seems to be a genuine desire to circulate knowledge between ALL user levels and kit lists. A BIG congratulations to you all.
The only thing i want to know about at the moment is the ettiqette regarding how many questions to post. As a beginner i have a million and one things i want to ask about all things Creamware and could happily ask them but certainly don't want to be a hog or a leech either. Some forums like to get as many diverse threads going as possible to encourage members who wouldn't normally respond to questions to get involved. Other forums like to limit the number of questions posted but then explore the answers in much greater detail. Different Moderators in diferent discussion groups within Planet Z may like to do things differently in their own groups. Anybody got any general advice please.
Many thanks 4 reading
02b
Creamware Virgin, please be gentle
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Counterparts
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Neil B
Welcome to "Z" O2B - perhaps the first Welshman to land here.
I promise no jokes whatsoever about sheep but can't promise the same for other Brits here
Yeah, starting out and asking the stupid (in hindsight) questions is a pain, but you'll do it!
You sound as if you've had some bad experiences in other forums (forum, forii??)
"Z" IS different - hardly an argument in years.
I agree with Royston (Conterparts) - start slowly and describe the problem as wella s you can - in the context of your other software if needs be (Cubase, outboard gear etc).
Out of interest - what part of Wales are you from?
Are there a lot of sheep ???? Damn, I promised
Hubird - please, No!!!!
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I promise no jokes whatsoever about sheep but can't promise the same for other Brits here
Yeah, starting out and asking the stupid (in hindsight) questions is a pain, but you'll do it!
You sound as if you've had some bad experiences in other forums (forum, forii??)
"Z" IS different - hardly an argument in years.
I agree with Royston (Conterparts) - start slowly and describe the problem as wella s you can - in the context of your other software if needs be (Cubase, outboard gear etc).
Out of interest - what part of Wales are you from?
Are there a lot of sheep ???? Damn, I promised
Hubird - please, No!!!!
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Basic Pitch
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Welcome!
Dont worry much, most here at the Z are extremely helpfull and willing to get new members going with their systems. Another good thing is with so many of us here, many also have knowledge of how to intergrate your Scope system with multiple sequencers and applications.
A small bit of advice, start with SFP over XTC, some may work exclusivly in XTC mode but you really miss out on alot of what the platform has to offer by using XTC exclusivly, of course this is my opinion and some may not share the same, but even if your planning to mostly use XTC mode, learning what SFP has to offer and how it all works is a very important element in usuing your Scope system and will go a long way in getting you to where you need the quickest way posible.
Cheers!
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Dont worry much, most here at the Z are extremely helpfull and willing to get new members going with their systems. Another good thing is with so many of us here, many also have knowledge of how to intergrate your Scope system with multiple sequencers and applications.
A small bit of advice, start with SFP over XTC, some may work exclusivly in XTC mode but you really miss out on alot of what the platform has to offer by using XTC exclusivly, of course this is my opinion and some may not share the same, but even if your planning to mostly use XTC mode, learning what SFP has to offer and how it all works is a very important element in usuing your Scope system and will go a long way in getting you to where you need the quickest way posible.
Cheers!
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Virgins are always welcome here 
About the questions, one thing I noticed when I myself were asking questions as a newbie, was being directed to the search-function on the forum. A lot of your questions has most propably been answered already, so there should be a great amount of knowledge to be found there.
Just a suggestion.
Welcome to PlanetZ!
Thomas
About the questions, one thing I noticed when I myself were asking questions as a newbie, was being directed to the search-function on the forum. A lot of your questions has most propably been answered already, so there should be a great amount of knowledge to be found there.
Just a suggestion.
Welcome to PlanetZ!
Thomas
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Hello fellow welsh man.. well i have welsh blood, along with a stupid surname..you english hold it down with the sheep comments. bah
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To be honest Counterparts, i haven't actually got round to using my CW cards properly yet. I think i should give you a quick summary of my musical history.
All the way through school i always wanted to play a musical instrument but after too many lessons and five different instruments i finally gave up any musical thoughts. When synths hit big in 79 - 80 i thought it was the answer to my dreams. A lot of articles at the time said things like "synths and drum machines make life too easy for the musician. All you have to do is press a button". Which to my ears sounded great. I saved and saved and saved and bought a Roland SH101 and Drumatix. It took me a year to realise that my synth and drum machine were not in fact psycic and could not play the tunes in my head just by me pressing a few buttons. So i packed in music again. Years later i started trying to make music again using Amigas and a piece of software called Octamed but the music i was making still sounded nothing like the stuff that was playing in my head and i drifted away from music again.It still hadn't registered that i might actually have to do some hard work to make music.
Years later i became friends with a guy who had a pc based setup at his house (Steinberg Pro 24 era). He got me interested again so i bought a pc and a 2nd hand DX 7. This proved less sucessful than the Roland combo. MIDI just fried my brain. At least with the 101 i could only play one note at a time badly. With the DX7, i was polyphonically crap. He tried to encourage me for years but by this time i was a fully paid up Ludite. Then a couple of years ago he started using Reason. He raved on and on about it for months and convinced me to give it a go. I clicked with it straight away. It enabled me to start making music without any knowledge of music theory. Notes ceased to be notes and just became positions in a grid. Building rhythms suddenly became easy with REX files.
About six months ago my mate upped and emigrated to Mexico but he gave me his PC and some of his gear before he left. When i finally got round to looking at his PC i discovered Cubase, a Pulsar I and a Pulsar SRB inside. I didn't really pay much attention to the Pulsars because Cubase was so vast. When i finally looked at the pulsars i presumed they were just some kind of Hardware VSTs. I didn't really understand them, left them alone and concentrated on learning Cubase. Then when my pal returned to the UK for Christmas, he gave me a Pulsar 2, a Luna 2496 box and a plate that has a couple of square plugs and a firewire port on it. I installed the Pulsar 2 ok and all the DSPs were there and all the i/os worked but no ASIO drivers were available to Reason or Cubase. The only drivers that were available were Creative ASIOs (there is also a SB Audigy in the same PC). I have now decided to start from scratch and build a dedicated music PC to run all the Pulsars, Cubase and reason. Thats where i am up to now. I am nearly finished reading all the TECH TALK stuff and have decided on a few definate components but need advice on others, so i am going to post my next questions to TECH TALK so i can finally start building.
Thank you all for your responses
O2B
All the way through school i always wanted to play a musical instrument but after too many lessons and five different instruments i finally gave up any musical thoughts. When synths hit big in 79 - 80 i thought it was the answer to my dreams. A lot of articles at the time said things like "synths and drum machines make life too easy for the musician. All you have to do is press a button". Which to my ears sounded great. I saved and saved and saved and bought a Roland SH101 and Drumatix. It took me a year to realise that my synth and drum machine were not in fact psycic and could not play the tunes in my head just by me pressing a few buttons. So i packed in music again. Years later i started trying to make music again using Amigas and a piece of software called Octamed but the music i was making still sounded nothing like the stuff that was playing in my head and i drifted away from music again.It still hadn't registered that i might actually have to do some hard work to make music.
Years later i became friends with a guy who had a pc based setup at his house (Steinberg Pro 24 era). He got me interested again so i bought a pc and a 2nd hand DX 7. This proved less sucessful than the Roland combo. MIDI just fried my brain. At least with the 101 i could only play one note at a time badly. With the DX7, i was polyphonically crap. He tried to encourage me for years but by this time i was a fully paid up Ludite. Then a couple of years ago he started using Reason. He raved on and on about it for months and convinced me to give it a go. I clicked with it straight away. It enabled me to start making music without any knowledge of music theory. Notes ceased to be notes and just became positions in a grid. Building rhythms suddenly became easy with REX files.
About six months ago my mate upped and emigrated to Mexico but he gave me his PC and some of his gear before he left. When i finally got round to looking at his PC i discovered Cubase, a Pulsar I and a Pulsar SRB inside. I didn't really pay much attention to the Pulsars because Cubase was so vast. When i finally looked at the pulsars i presumed they were just some kind of Hardware VSTs. I didn't really understand them, left them alone and concentrated on learning Cubase. Then when my pal returned to the UK for Christmas, he gave me a Pulsar 2, a Luna 2496 box and a plate that has a couple of square plugs and a firewire port on it. I installed the Pulsar 2 ok and all the DSPs were there and all the i/os worked but no ASIO drivers were available to Reason or Cubase. The only drivers that were available were Creative ASIOs (there is also a SB Audigy in the same PC). I have now decided to start from scratch and build a dedicated music PC to run all the Pulsars, Cubase and reason. Thats where i am up to now. I am nearly finished reading all the TECH TALK stuff and have decided on a few definate components but need advice on others, so i am going to post my next questions to TECH TALK so i can finally start building.
Thank you all for your responses
O2B
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O2BChrisPayne
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O.K. O.K. Enough of the sheep thing. I'm gonna clear this up once and for all.
Yes, most of us in Wales have at one time or another experimented with sheep sex in some way but the truth of the matter is that Welsh Sheep are really not that well endowed and insist on so much foreplay that it makes the whole encounter hardly worthwhile.
Take my advice and stick with the old trusty Leek. Ah, there's lovely.
Yes, most of us in Wales have at one time or another experimented with sheep sex in some way but the truth of the matter is that Welsh Sheep are really not that well endowed and insist on so much foreplay that it makes the whole encounter hardly worthwhile.
Take my advice and stick with the old trusty Leek. Ah, there's lovely.