Help!! Need example project for synths / sampler / Cubase

[hearnm]

Can anyone please help to lower my blood pressure by providing me with an example project to use in conjunction with Cubase SX? I have two Creamware cards (Pulsar II and Powersampler). What I would like to do is have the following devices loaded:

STS4000
Lightwave
Minimax
Abynth 2 (VST Instrument)

I want to use only the individual outputs of the STS4000 so that I can assign samples on different MIDI channels to different ASIO channels (so that different effects can be added etc).

I also want to be able to add both SFP effects AND Cubase effects to any particular synth or sampler channel, then record the channels back into Cubase.

To complicate matters further, I also want to be able to use VST instruments and have the ability to add SFP OR Cubase effects to the VST instruments then again record back into Cubase.

I am pretty new to all this, so please forgive me if this sounds simple, but I would really appreciate any advice from the Pulsar Gurus!!

[astroman]

well, you asked for it...
take:
a pencil, a piece of paper, half an hour and a cup of tea or whatever keeps you going
forget about all technical details and just draw some diagram lines to symbolize signalflow and logic

divide and rule
once the overall logic gets visible simplify the design by choosing one core (to start with) and decide in which steps to add the extras.

possibly not what you wanted to read, but it works, definetely.
If it doesn't (no offence intended), you would have screwed up the readymade, complete design anyway - sooner or later.
And finally spent more hours than start working it out yourself - consider this time an investment

but of course you're welcome to ask when you get stuck - someone will probably answer your questions anyway - I just wanted to mention the most obvious, though most neglected option

cheers, Tom

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[arela]

maybe something like this will do

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... &0&start=0

[hearnm]

Thanks Arela for the example project! I had sort of got to that stage anyway, but I am a little confused about the Direct Outs - of which you have 10 connected to the ASIO dest module. Are these connected to the STS 4000? If so, then can I assume that on these 5 stereo STS4000 channels you are able to add SFP effects first (ie through the STM1632 mixer) and then also add Cubase effects to these channels? If this is correct, then I don't see how you could record the resultant mix back into Cubase - shouldn't the Mix L / R channels on the STM1632 mixer be connected to 2 additional ASIO2 Dest inputs?

Astroman, your post brought a smile to my face! I hope you don't think I am trying to go down the 'easy road' by asking for help, but I am totally new to all this. I have learned a great deal about computers, having spent a long time (months actually) figuring out why my computer kept 'blue screening', messing around with IRQ's, disabling unnecessary hardware, un-installing, re-installing, tweaking Windows, doing things in different orders etc etc so that my setup finally appears to be stable! And all this before I begin on the SFP learning curve. I just wanna make music

[Mr Arkadin]

Well arela gave you one way to work, there are infinite other ways. The way you describe of feeding the mix out to ASIO is exactly what i do, i never use the direct outs; don't forget you can 'wire' the stereo out to as many destinations as you like - it's not one wire per function here.

Mr A

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[arela]

I use direct out alot, because it save time and DSP, if i want to record a lot of synths
with effects (STM aux) like compressor, verb etc.

which you have 10 connected to the ASIO dest module. Are these connected to the STS 4000?

YES, and you could also connect asio directly to sts out, or both (for monitoring while recording)

If so, then can I assume that on these 5 stereo STS4000 channels you are able to add SFP effects first (ie through the STM1632 mixer)

YES, the main reason.

You need to record this tracks to Cubase, before you can add cubase (VST) effects.
.....and even more SFP effects.

then I don't see how you could record the resultant mix back into Cubase

When all tracs are recorded to seperate tracks into Cubase, you can connect a
ASIO dest L/R to MIX L/R and record your song.

And remeber, you need to assign OUT's in cubase for your audiotracks
They are your ASIO Source into the mixer

I do mosly use a project like this as a starting project for most of my tunes,
later i use a project with 16 ASIO soucees into mixer for recording the final mix.

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