REVERB Classic problems
hi again 
thank you all for help.
i finnaly set my board to use PIC mode, reinstalled windows XP, without SP2 now.
also reinstalled creamware programs, by the way, i have used SFP3.1c, now i downloaded Scope 4 and installed clear.
what i got now?
really fast system, but what about REVERB, like "The same eggs, only on the other side",
no changes.
i have an external TSR-12 mutlieffect by Digitech, but i want more then 1 type of effect in same time...
(I fall on my knees and I start to cry..)
i read (i dont remember where), that pulsars REVERB needs more then only a DSP, its need PCI channel and memory.
i have 512mb x2, may be its not enough?
thank you all for help.
i finnaly set my board to use PIC mode, reinstalled windows XP, without SP2 now.
also reinstalled creamware programs, by the way, i have used SFP3.1c, now i downloaded Scope 4 and installed clear.
what i got now?
really fast system, but what about REVERB, like "The same eggs, only on the other side",
no changes.
i have an external TSR-12 mutlieffect by Digitech, but i want more then 1 type of effect in same time...
(I fall on my knees and I start to cry..)
i read (i dont remember where), that pulsars REVERB needs more then only a DSP, its need PCI channel and memory.
i have 512mb x2, may be its not enough?
Hi All,
I've got same 875, same GFX card, same P1 and SRB (+ Luna II), USB only for cubase key, nothing else external, and 1 Gig DDRRAM.
Work's fine here. SOoooo.....
May be the reverb is corrupt after all?
OR if you can use it in XTC, there's a fault with the SFP installation. Or your sequencer is doing something to choke your PCI flow (so to speak)
Is there anything happening in the background that you haven't switched off? Virus protection, firewall.
Sorry, I'm no IT expert but just thought you should know my hardware works OK.
Good Luck
Oh, should say that I don't use SP2, only SP1
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Ricardo (of the slightly bigger Clan 'Ricardo')
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I've got same 875, same GFX card, same P1 and SRB (+ Luna II), USB only for cubase key, nothing else external, and 1 Gig DDRRAM.
Work's fine here. SOoooo.....
May be the reverb is corrupt after all?
OR if you can use it in XTC, there's a fault with the SFP installation. Or your sequencer is doing something to choke your PCI flow (so to speak)
Is there anything happening in the background that you haven't switched off? Virus protection, firewall.
Sorry, I'm no IT expert but just thought you should know my hardware works OK.
Good Luck
Oh, should say that I don't use SP2, only SP1
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Ricardo (of the slightly bigger Clan 'Ricardo')
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i'm sure, that problem is in Pulsar card..
i changed everything.. from MOBO, CPU, VGA, MEMORY, WIN98/XP, even power suply
thank you all
i just need to buy new Pulsar card,
or may be i'll take TC Powercore
http://www.tcelectronic.com/PowerCoreFireWire
i changed everything.. from MOBO, CPU, VGA, MEMORY, WIN98/XP, even power suply
thank you all
i just need to buy new Pulsar card,
or may be i'll take TC Powercore
http://www.tcelectronic.com/PowerCoreFireWire
Just for curiosity, why don't you try P-100 or A-100 Warp's & Sonic Timeworks reverb demos? They are much more pci intensive than Masterverb, but they could reveal something about the Scope installation files in your system...
The fact that is the card I can't believe, the problem should arise much more with other stuff too, one Masterverb is not that threat, and a defect in pci bus communication should make the card unusable.
Try those demos and make a report...
The fact that is the card I can't believe, the problem should arise much more with other stuff too, one Masterverb is not that threat, and a defect in pci bus communication should make the card unusable.
Try those demos and make a report...
it's a natural matter of fact - the PCI bandwidth issue affects only reverbs and delays - nothing else.
I'm not sure if this is the exact reason, but the data written to mobo Ram (the DSP onchip memory is too small) has to be back on the card for output precisely in time. So at least a part of the bus must get locked - and it's a bidirectional transfer (!).
Since the old cards are slower they (have to) lock for larger time segments, which will interfere with the bios and OS bus arbitration more often.
A 2nd generation card is faster and thus can squeeze it's data segments better in between the stuff already running on the bus.
The PCI latency timer (in BIOS) affects this, but opposed to the commonly known ASIO latency. The larger the value, the more 'demand' is put on the PCI bus.
It's a well known trick from graphcard and network card builders to yield high benchmarke results. They almost steal the bus by setting a high PCI latency value for their own devices and so locking out others.
cheers, Tom
ps: I agree with Alfonso - the PCI bus is such a sensible item this single fault seems almost impossible. nevertheless your values are completely out of any reasonable range...
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I'm not sure if this is the exact reason, but the data written to mobo Ram (the DSP onchip memory is too small) has to be back on the card for output precisely in time. So at least a part of the bus must get locked - and it's a bidirectional transfer (!).
Since the old cards are slower they (have to) lock for larger time segments, which will interfere with the bios and OS bus arbitration more often.
A 2nd generation card is faster and thus can squeeze it's data segments better in between the stuff already running on the bus.
The PCI latency timer (in BIOS) affects this, but opposed to the commonly known ASIO latency. The larger the value, the more 'demand' is put on the PCI bus.
It's a well known trick from graphcard and network card builders to yield high benchmarke results. They almost steal the bus by setting a high PCI latency value for their own devices and so locking out others.
cheers, Tom
ps: I agree with Alfonso - the PCI bus is such a sensible item this single fault seems almost impossible. nevertheless your values are completely out of any reasonable range...
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Have you done this?
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