Every time i try to use my card I get PCI capacity limit rea

cleanbluesky · Post by **cleanbluesky** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:28 pm

I have just installed a new mobo after I screwed up my original, and have installed only Creamware Pulsar II and Audigy 2 ZS Plat Pro in my PCI slots yet I am still getting this error and cannot use the card. I load up Cubase and get the PCI overflow message before I can get any audio...
What could be causing this?

Post by **garyb** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:36 pm

is it the same model? you will probably need to reinstall everything from scratch to make things work right. did you install the motherboard's chipset drivers? is dma enabled?

cleanbluesky · Post by **cleanbluesky** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:04 pm

It's a different model and I have uninstalled and reinstalled SCOPE but it keeps happening. DMA is enabled on all drives.

I went from an ASUS p4s533 to a ASROCK P4VT8

interloper · Post by **interloper** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:06 pm

Any IRQ's shared with the Pulsar?

cleanbluesky · Post by **cleanbluesky** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:17 pm

IRQ 00 Exclusive System timer

IRQ 01 Exclusive Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard

IRQ 04 Exclusive Communications Port (COM1)

IRQ 06 Exclusive Standard floppy disk controller

IRQ 08 Exclusive System CMOS/real time clock

IRQ 09 Shared Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System

IRQ 12 Exclusive PS/2 Compatible Mouse

IRQ 13 Exclusive Numeric data processor

IRQ 14 Exclusive Primary IDE Channel

IRQ 15 Exclusive Secondary IDE Channel

IRQ 16 Shared RADEON 9700 PRO

IRQ 16 Shared OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller

IRQ 17 Shared Creamware Pulsar2

IRQ 19 Shared Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS (WDM)

IRQ 20 Shared VIA Serial ATA RAID Controller

IRQ 21 Shared VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller

IRQ 21 Shared VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller

IRQ 21 Shared VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller

IRQ 21 Shared VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller

IRQ 21 Shared VIA USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller

Could ACPI be the problem here? How would I reinstall or get the latest ACPI? (I don't know what ACPI does)

interloper · Post by **interloper** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:51 pm

Before you do that, try another slot (even though it seems you have no conflicts).

And if you disable ACPI (which I always do anyways), don't be frustrated if it didn't help.

Ah, the joys of troubleshooting...

Post by **Guest** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:24 pm

VIA Chipset? Not recommanded for CreamWare.
Your Asus was a better choice. it was SIS chipset.

start by
1 disable the on board sound. If you have not done so.
2. disable some of those USB's
3. Disable HT
4.Disable Plugin play

Make sure you can Put the DSP card by itself on a lower IRQ 5 or 9 prefered

I personally suggest install the OS in standard mode.

[ This Message was edited by: antar on 2004-12-08 19:34 ]

Post by **garyb** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:02 pm

reinstall windows. start from scratch and that way you will KNOW what is happening. just fixed two computers this weekend that now work perfectly(a third install was a new computer). the owners of those machines had all kinds of crazy problems from 1.installing/uninstalling tons of hard and software over the last year including cracks, and 2.using a cleaning program to remove "duplicate files" that were not "duplicates" but were important components of various programs. both situations were much more quickly fixed by just starting over.

be sure and backup all user generated files that you want to keep, and when installing windows, be sure to repartition and reformat your system hard drive.

first in bios, disable ALL ports and devices that will not be used(parallel, serial, audio, lan etc..) also, be sure and disable usb2.0/high speed usb(takes up irq and is unneeded, if you REALLY need it, you can use it...). i prefer to disable ht, i will probably work, but i seriously doubt you will see a significant performance increase. i prefer stability. VERY important, disable plug and play os. there are other possible tweaks as well, these should get you going.

in windows, disable all the visual enhancements except for common tasks in folders. disable backrounds and screensavers and choose "98classic" for theme. in power options choose "always on" and "never" for turn off hard drives. disable write behind caching on all hard drives. choose 32bit color. disable auto insert notification in registry.turn off automatic updates. turn off remote assisstance. turn off system restore.there are certainly other teaks but those are probably the main ones.

then be sure and install the motherboard drivers, and some have found it useful to install vid drivers after all the software. personally, i install them immediately and things work fine. i usually use nvidia cards and ati customers seem to be the ones who like to instsll vid drivers last, but i just installed an ati card the same way as always(right after the motherboard drivers) and all went well. then install the cw driver, sequencer and scope.

next question though, what the hell mobo is that? all the asrock mobos that i could find with models even resembling that one you listed are using via and sis chipsets! there has been too much good advice wasted in these forums is that's what you bought. an intel d865 perl is only $80-90 u.s. so if you got one of those bargain $50 motherboards, saving $30 doesn't make much sense if you spent almost $1000 for the soundcard.......

i just would like to see you able to enjoy your hardware. it WILL work beautifully when it's installed properly. i'd like to help, please excuse me if my comments are out of line.

*edit* i forgot a bios tweak i always do. set the pci latency timer to 96 or so...

[ This Message was edited by: garyb on 2004-12-10 04:42 ]

Post by **Guest** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:30 pm

this mobo is selling for under 27 Euro/48 USD

Garyb is right. you should have invested in a decent mobo.
If it is not too late return this mobo and get yourself an intel.

the intel d865perl or Intel D875PBZ were mentioned many times on this forum and lots of users who got these will strongly stand by their systems.

[ This Message was edited by: antar on 2004-12-08 20:39 ]

cleanbluesky · Post by **cleanbluesky** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:00 am

Scenario... I screw up my ASUS while installing a case, so I run down to my local Maplins store and PC World and see what they have on offer. The only board that is compatible with my system is the ASROCK P(Whatever) that I bought. There was no real way to research without my computer, so I was in a fix. Thus, i am now in this position...
It cost £50, perhaps $80 and I was thinking that it may be a little cheap for a 'fully featured' (SATA,RAID,HT + 8 USB) 478 mobo, but I was in a fix.

[ This Message was edited by: cleanbluesky on 2004-12-09 05:06 ]

cleanbluesky · Post by **cleanbluesky** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:07 am

That is the third PC related regret in the past month. Bought a X-Pro 400w PSU which turned out to be noisy (although v pretty), bought a Aerocool HT-101 which is good but was very hard to install and now this mobo. Would a Intel Desktop D865PERL be a suitable mobo? That and a Enermax Noisetaker?

At least I still like my Antec BQE...

Individu · Post by **Individu** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:16 am

ASROCK's P4VT8 Pentium 4 motherboard contains some impressive options, including two Serial ATA drive headers, five PCI slots, 10/100 Ethernet, RAID, a half dozen rear-mounted USB 2.0 ports and three DDR400 supportive RAM slots. It is also very low in price. You get what you pay for.

The board is suitable for smaller tasks and perfect as an entertainment PC with its integrated 5.1 audio and 8x AGP slot with room for tuner expansion care of the numerous PCI slots. But it has a VIA chipset. I had one of those. And I had the same error message all the time. I re-installed drivers (video card and other peripheral drivers), I changed the video card and got another one that had more memory, Added more memory from 250MB to 1GB, still problem persisted. It would always start with that error message. I had to change my Motherboard to an Asus P4C800 E, which I thought at first was bad. But I was able to cure my troubles, and now I am a happy musician.

According to couple of bench marks, the board was showing weakness on the overall performance. This is what a website said:

"The board won't be for the power users, our benchmarking results showed the board's weakness with an overall SYSmark 2002 score of 194 using our Pentium 4 3.2GHz processor, half a gigabyte of PC3200 DDR RAM and GeForce4 Ti4600 graphics.

The CMOS reset is located rather awkwardly between the fourth and fifth PCI slots, making for a difficult reset if you have a device in the fourth slot, not a big issue, but enough to cause undue anguish if you need to reset while overclocking. "

From my experience, I think It is the VIA chipset. Not good for creamware.

By the way, I used to get another error with that board too."PCI Overflow" error. Just terrible.

[ This Message was edited by: Individu on 2004-12-09 06:26 ]

cleanbluesky · Post by **cleanbluesky** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:10 am

Whats the advantage of the Intel Desktop D875PBZLK over the Intel Desktop D865PERL? Which ASUS Mobo would be good to get?

Post by **garyb** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:55 pm

get the d865perl. it's cheap and stable. don't get all those extras(lan, raid etc.)that you don't absolutely need. the 875 is a good board as well but it is more expensive and i doubt it'll work any better.

cleanbluesky · Post by **cleanbluesky** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:10 pm

I have DDR 133mhz RAM, would it work in the Intel?

cleanbluesky · Post by **cleanbluesky** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:14 pm

If the Intel isn't compatible, would a Asus P4P800S-X be suitable?

cleanbluesky · Post by **cleanbluesky** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:01 pm

Okay, thanks all. I have ordered a Perl mobo, an enermax noisetaker and a new SATA HD to shove my music on. After that, I will repackage my present mobo and get a refund. Much appreciated advice guys...

Plato · Post by **Plato** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:38 pm

Hi, just to add -
I have that board (D865PERL), and I have to say it works very well, but I've found it's a hell of alot better in Standard PC mode than ACPI.....
Best to install Windows in Std PC from scratch...do you know how? - it's better than switching post install.
To check your RAM compatibility look at somewhere like Crucial RAM, where they'll give you a list of all the eligible contenders for your mobo.
Cheers.

cleanbluesky · Post by **cleanbluesky** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:00 pm

How would I install without ACPI? What does ACPI do anyway?

Post by **garyb** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:20 pm

all three installs i did this weekend were acpi. 2 mobos were d865perls. all was ok. everything runs great.

to install in standard mode, when windows install asks you to press f6 or f8(don't remember) to install 3rd party scsi drivers press f5. there will be a dialog saying that windows can't determine the type of pc and you'll be prompted to choose from a list. you can then select "standard pc". be advised you may have to scroll to find it....