Hi everyone, I am just putting together a system around a pulsar 1 and a pulsar xtc......equipment I already have but wondered what operating system I should use.
I am using windows XP Pro on my other machines, but also have 2000pro. Any advice as to which to avoid or which to use???
Thanks in advance for the help.
Windows 2000 or XP Pro
Sounds good, Ratkinson. But how hard are you able to drive this setup?
See comment on this forum from Braincell (posted yesterday re W2K) and his latency probs with W2K which drove him back to Win98. Presumably such probs all relate to how the OS works with the motherboard and BIOS on PCI timing.
Maybe this is something XP does better than W2K. In your succesful case, what mobo/CPU/RAM are you using? What ULLI setting can you sustain?
tks
See comment on this forum from Braincell (posted yesterday re W2K) and his latency probs with W2K which drove him back to Win98. Presumably such probs all relate to how the OS works with the motherboard and BIOS on PCI timing.
Maybe this is something XP does better than W2K. In your succesful case, what mobo/CPU/RAM are you using? What ULLI setting can you sustain?
tks
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marcuspocus
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I use WinXP pro also, and it seem better than W2K. More tweaking is possible also. I can go down to 4ms, but is stable without clicks at 7ms, before in WinME, i could get 7ms also, but worked at 13ms cuz of clicks.
So i get better performance in WinXP than WinME.
The system is ALOT more stable this is for sure.
So i get better performance in WinXP than WinME.
The system is ALOT more stable this is for sure.
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My setup is Asus CUSL2, P3 866, 512MB ram, Matrox G400, SBLive, Pulsar2, 3com NIC, TV card, standard bios settings.
I don't go mad with ulli settings, I have always ran at 13ms, which for what I am doing works fine.
One thing to bear in mind is that what is an ideal sytem for one person might be a dogs breakfast for somebody else. I don't record audio, all my work is done with soft synths, so when people start talking about latency problems and pci overflows, I am personally not seeing any. But I don't run lots of reverbs on my Pulsar, maybe one at the most.
Hope this helps.
I've just read some of your other posts, so I thought I would add a few more words to my initial impressions of XP.
I started my system on win98se, no problems. Moved to win98 lite, I personally had more problems, didn't seem as stable to me. Got hold of win XP and thought wow this looks very nice, I bet it runs like a dog. Browsed the internet and it flew, way faster than 98. Opened office documents, what a flying machine, I thought.
Installed os3 and cubase, loaded up a few soft synths and started playing, so far so good. Recorded a few tracks, set the song going and started clicking on windows and drop down boxes. Uggghhh, clicks pops, slow redraws on the graphics, absolutely horrible, what had happened to my flying machine. Browsed a few forums for the answers. What I found was that, what works beautifully for an office machine is crap for DAW. Found two tweaks that make the most difference, the first is set priority to background tasks, NOT programs in system settings, and the second is to disable all the fancy gui by setting the graphics to best for performance (or words to that effect), just looks like win2k then. That's it, no changes to registry, system files, swap file. Contrary to other opinions I have a steering wheel plugged into my usb port and Colin Mcrae Rally installed and I still don't see any problems.
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My setup is Asus CUSL2, P3 866, 512MB ram, Matrox G400, SBLive, Pulsar2, 3com NIC, TV card, standard bios settings.
I don't go mad with ulli settings, I have always ran at 13ms, which for what I am doing works fine.
One thing to bear in mind is that what is an ideal sytem for one person might be a dogs breakfast for somebody else. I don't record audio, all my work is done with soft synths, so when people start talking about latency problems and pci overflows, I am personally not seeing any. But I don't run lots of reverbs on my Pulsar, maybe one at the most.
Hope this helps.
I've just read some of your other posts, so I thought I would add a few more words to my initial impressions of XP.
I started my system on win98se, no problems. Moved to win98 lite, I personally had more problems, didn't seem as stable to me. Got hold of win XP and thought wow this looks very nice, I bet it runs like a dog. Browsed the internet and it flew, way faster than 98. Opened office documents, what a flying machine, I thought.
Installed os3 and cubase, loaded up a few soft synths and started playing, so far so good. Recorded a few tracks, set the song going and started clicking on windows and drop down boxes. Uggghhh, clicks pops, slow redraws on the graphics, absolutely horrible, what had happened to my flying machine. Browsed a few forums for the answers. What I found was that, what works beautifully for an office machine is crap for DAW. Found two tweaks that make the most difference, the first is set priority to background tasks, NOT programs in system settings, and the second is to disable all the fancy gui by setting the graphics to best for performance (or words to that effect), just looks like win2k then. That's it, no changes to registry, system files, swap file. Contrary to other opinions I have a steering wheel plugged into my usb port and Colin Mcrae Rally installed and I still don't see any problems.
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I got Pulsar V3 working with XP completely last night. However, like was the case under Win2k, I find Cubase (and probably other audio programs) performing quite a bit worse under XP than 98 - more clicks, more CPU usage etc. Are you experiencing this too? And is it simply something we have to live with running XP/2K or is it the Pulsar drivers not being up to the task yet?
As I said above, after a few tweaks I managed to eliminate all clicks. Can't say I've noticed a change in processor usage, but one theory I do have is that it is still very early days for XP and although XP found all my hardware, if I go searching for OEM drivers, I can't find any, so I expect as XP becomes established updated drivers should appear. Pulsar is a classic example, CW have only just brought out win2k drivers, although they work for XP, CW don't support XP officially yet. Also if you run windows update microsoft are constantly adding to the driver database, just the other day I got one for my P3 processor, didn't realise it needed one!
tks, ratk - useful input
I am same board, RAM, cpu as you, but w/MatroxG450. My 98lite based setup was great for a long while, but now, cubase (VST, 5.0r5) simply will not start, even after full unistall/reinstalls. problem appears to be missing dlls or some other OS setting. My 98lite is real fast, and other progs more stable under it than under full 98 (tried all: 98, se, and me). But I find 98lite itself is a bit delicate.
I will try 98lite 4.5 first, if no go, based on your experience I'll probably do the full banana - reformat system drive, clean install of everything, on XP this time. I have put off going to V3 till I make the OS decision, figuring best to do all at once if I'm going there anyway.
again, thanks
I am same board, RAM, cpu as you, but w/MatroxG450. My 98lite based setup was great for a long while, but now, cubase (VST, 5.0r5) simply will not start, even after full unistall/reinstalls. problem appears to be missing dlls or some other OS setting. My 98lite is real fast, and other progs more stable under it than under full 98 (tried all: 98, se, and me). But I find 98lite itself is a bit delicate.
I will try 98lite 4.5 first, if no go, based on your experience I'll probably do the full banana - reformat system drive, clean install of everything, on XP this time. I have put off going to V3 till I make the OS decision, figuring best to do all at once if I'm going there anyway.
again, thanks
tks, ratk - useful input
I am same board, RAM, cpu as you, but w/MatroxG450. My 98lite based setup was great for a long while, but now, cubase (VST, 5.0r5) simply will not start, even after full unistall/reinstalls. problem appears to be missing dlls or some other OS setting. My 98lite is real fast, and other progs more stable under it than under full 98 (tried all: 98, se, and me). But I find 98lite itself is a bit delicate.
I will try 98lite 4.5 first, if no go, based on your experience I'll probably do the full banana - reformat system drive, clean install of everything, on XP this time. I have put off going to V3 till I make the OS decision, figuring best to do all at once if I'm going there anyway.
again, thanks
I am same board, RAM, cpu as you, but w/MatroxG450. My 98lite based setup was great for a long while, but now, cubase (VST, 5.0r5) simply will not start, even after full unistall/reinstalls. problem appears to be missing dlls or some other OS setting. My 98lite is real fast, and other progs more stable under it than under full 98 (tried all: 98, se, and me). But I find 98lite itself is a bit delicate.
I will try 98lite 4.5 first, if no go, based on your experience I'll probably do the full banana - reformat system drive, clean install of everything, on XP this time. I have put off going to V3 till I make the OS decision, figuring best to do all at once if I'm going there anyway.
again, thanks