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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 9:35 am
by kensuguro
<a name="planetz-file"></a><a href="http://www.iface.ne.jp/~ken/atmosmegamix.mp3"><img src="/forums/images/listen_icon.gif" border="0" alt=" Song"> Song</a><BR> <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Genre: Trance<BR> <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Uses: max/MSP<BR> kensuguro for atMOS project<BR> _____________________________________<BR><BR> well, the trance engine has finally reached its final state. Or more like I don't have time to fiddle with it before the presentation.

I've mixed together a couple of performances by the generator, and tied them together into a 30 minute non-stop mix. Sometimes a I left the engine performing too long and the tune may become boring.. bear with me.

Notice genearting 30 minutes only took like 40 minutes.

All comments welcome! I'm just glad I was able to get this far in the "automatic" concept. The thing is, I have to teach the engine every single detail, but it learns it perfectly. So it's kind of like teaching a student. And I'm glad my half-decent pupil has grown this much.

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 10:17 am
by hubird
cheerz Ken, it works coz it isn't bad at all :smile:
pretty close to the style you explored :smile:

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 11:43 am
by samplaire
You should send it to Max/Msp makers, really :smile: Why does the 'song' stop between all the phrases (I don't mean the crossfades but the bars). I know it isn't meant to but am just curious what is the reason? Is it the Max limitation or just because it's a rehearsal only or it's offline???

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 2:01 pm
by kensuguro
the jitter between the bars is because my CPU isn't fast enough. (1ghz on my powerbook g4) The actual system runs on a dual 1.2ghz so that's no problem. During the jitters, max/msp tries to keep the clocks running at a constant rate. Has to do with the fact that the buffer's work very strangely in max/msp

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 3:24 am
by samplaire
On 2003-07-19 15:01, kensuguro wrote:
Has to do with the fact that the buffer's work very strangely in max/msp
Nobody's and nothing's perfect. As I can see the Cycling's programs (overal) are very creative tools but - as always - in right hands. And yours are :cool:

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 8:15 am
by kensuguro
thanks. Building this engine was a great learning experience. I ended up finally learning how to program in max/msp, and also gave me a chance to thing about what exactly constitutes what we call "music". No wonder people say that teaching is part of a learning process.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:03 am
by spoimala
Pretty much done in 40 minutes! But what engine are you talking about?

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:31 am
by kensuguro
it's a software that I wrote. It composes these tunes automatically. Literally, witha press of a button.