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did somebody test the mixer lately, if it´s stable in the phase?

There's a phase button in Options on the PulsarMixer which is supposed to keep the phase throughout the mixer rock solid now (it uses a little more DSP though). As I now have 21 DSPs I normally just leave it on. I haven't tested it though to see if there's any difference - not sure how to.

Tony R

I think felix asked about the recent mixers (STM 2448 and 4896)

The same phase button's on the STM series mixers and even Micromixer nowadays. I hopeit does it's job.
It does eat a little DSP.

phase correlation is definitely better than hardware.my analog desk is not perfect.

thanks for your replies. i didn´t recognize this phase button.i´ll check it out and i´m going to report you.

what the phase corellasion suposedto do you?

Omb

Keep every channel in exact phase to eachother - something, that even the most expensive hardware-mixers are said to fail at doing.

Immanuel

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On 2002-11-10 09:30, Immanuel wrote:
Keep every channel in exact phase to eachother - something, that even the most expensive hardware-mixers are said to fail at doing.

Immanuel.

you mean that when there are two chanell's playing there is a situation that a silent can occur although there supposed to a
sound?

nah, not that big of a phase issue...some cancellation and coloration(bad sound)can occur if the channels are not pretty close to each other.some might not have even noticed a problem when it existed...

sorry guys, that it took me so long to answer again. i checked out the phase situation (by ears, without any measuring equipment). as far as i can say, creamware has gone a big step into proffesionality. to me it sounds, like there is no more phase problem like in the last years. i tried it with the stm 1632. pushing the phase button, it gives a slight enhancement, but even without it is already quite good. but i´m going to leave it active.
if somebody has the facilities to proof with measuring equipment, i would be very glad. this would give me the confidence to use the mixer even in radio production.

bye, felix

" I haven't tested it though to see if there's any difference - not sure how to.

Tony R"

if you want to try it (by ears) here is how:

take a piece of music (stereo, good quality). connect the out of your e.g. asio module and connect it multiple to the mixer (i connected it 16 x stereo). turn down the volume for all channels (i did put it to -24db) and mute all exept one. now let the music play. then unmute on after the other. there should be no change in the sound (normaly you can hear the highs changing, if there is a phase problem), it should only become louder the more channels you open. try also to to repeat the whole procedure with pushed mono button. also teh difference between mono and stereo in the sound structure shouldn´t change. it can happen, that the reverb or instruments with chorus or flanging effects may vary by switching from stereo to mono, but e.g. a drum overhead shouldn´t change sound.

so feel welcome to check it out. maybee i had some tomatos on my ears or you can confirm.

bye, felix

You could also use this tool:
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... forum=16&2

hey, at0mic! do you know for some similar tool in vst version?!

No i'm sorry, i'm more a DSP dude

i downloaded it already. quite good for problematic material.