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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 12:31 pm
by braincell
When recording into wavelab from the luna II sp-dif source module I get a lot of crackle. While monitoring the audio it sounds fine but when I play it back after recording the wave it has a lot of pops like green wood in a fire.

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 1:01 pm
by DJATWORK
Had you turn the Luna into SLAVE?

Is the project sample rate the same as the original signal that is being recorded?

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 4:44 pm
by braincell
The rates are the the same (they set automatically anyway) It was set as the CW to be the master. When I set it for the CW to be the slave it does not get a steady sync, however I *am* getting audio with the CW as the master (which I can hear) just not able to record it without the crackle. I would think if I could hear the audio clearly from the sp-dif, I should be able to record it cleanly. This is odd.

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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 11:23 pm
by DJATWORK
If you record from a digital source, that digital source must be MASTER or receive a word clock signal...
Otherwise, there will be crackles and jitter...

You should set the Luna as SLAVE and choose the digital input that will be master. You have to shoose the SPdif as master.

That ocurr with wavelab ONLY when recording from SPDIF source?


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Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2002 9:55 am
by braincell
Yes "ONLY when recording from SPDIF".


If it is required that I use the Luna in slave mode I can't record because the SFP does not lock on to the signal (hour glass on and off). It's odd that it would let me record any of the Luna sp-dif source while the Luna is in Master mode. You would think it would shut it off totally rather than give you a bad recording.

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Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2002 11:36 pm
by DJATWORK
Some machines lets you record the signal that comes from a digital In, if its in sync or not, bot some other machines, MUTES all signal that is not syncronized.

I don´t really know what does the CW Hardware do, because I correctly sync my devices.

That happens with Wavelabs even if you choose ASIO drivers or Waev drivers? (mme or wdm)

Try to use another software to record from the SPDif IN and then you´ll know it you have to contact Steinberg Tech Support or Creamware´s...

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 9:52 am
by boz_h
You probably have already thought of this, but are you using 75ohm cables. I had the same problem with Spdif crackles and my Pulsar, I replaced my cables and the problem vanished.

Cheers

Boz

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 9:18 pm
by braincell
In my case I don't know if I am using " 75ohm cables" but I can tell you that I am using a heavy duty cable designed specifically for sp-dif. I would also like to add that I did not have this problem with older versions of the Pulsar software. I think version 2.0 was the last one that worked (It was a long time ago), also I have the exact same problem if I am using the Pulsar sp-dif in or the Luna sp-dif in. I'm using the same type of shielded "digital" cable for the Pulsar sp-dif out with no problems whatsoever.

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 9:22 pm
by braincell
DJATWORK:

I just read your post. I am about to try switching audio drivers in wavelab. I'll post my result in a few minutes.

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 9:50 pm
by braincell
Well it seems that there are 3 choices for audio in Wavelab.

Microsoft WDM
Creamware WDM
Scope ASIO

None of them would record the audio without crackle. Switching drivers in Wavelab does not solve a basic problem that the SFP does not sync as a slave to the external SP-DIF. It's trying to sync but doesn't get a solid enough sync, hence the crackle.

Something about my system must be different from everybody elses because this doesn't seem to be a common problem although I did notice at least one other has this problem. CW support simply didn't answer my emails about this. I had hoped that future updates to the platform would fix it but they didn't. This is sad for me.

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Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 9:54 pm
by DJATWORK
Are you trying to record from a tape digital source?? (ADAT or DAT maybe?)

Is that machine good capable for clocking?
Does the tape have any scratch or something?

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 11:00 pm
by braincell
It's an MD recorder and it worked fine before. I have tried different disks.

It just occured to me that I might be using a mini stereo male to two stereo female outs rather than a stereo to two mono outs on the Luna. Could this be my problem?

I have to buy a new y-cable or adaptor to try this. Does anyone know for sure if this is the problem?

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 11:05 pm
by braincell
Woops it is a stereo male to two stereo females. That might be the problem.

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 11:09 pm
by braincell
Have to go to the store tomorrow and buy a new y-cable or adaptor and see if it fixes it.

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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2002 12:51 pm
by braincell
Got the mini stereo to two mono adaptor and that did not solve the problem. Still bad sync. I can't think of anything else to try.

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2002 1:22 pm
by DJATWORK
Wait a minute!!!
What´s going on here?

"MINI" stereo male?

Havn´t you got RCA Coaxial connections?

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2002 1:51 pm
by braincell
The Luna has a mini female phone plug for the sp-dif i/o.