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This file has expired and is no longer available here. The owner of the topic can re-upload the file, or post a link to an off-site file. <BR><BR><a name="planetz-tag"></a>Genre: Trance<BR> <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Uses: Pulsar I Triton a host of VST plugins...<BR> copyright © 2002 John Twedt<BR> _____________________________________<BR><BR> This is going to be the inaugural track for my new record label. It's still pretty rough, and it ends abruptly after about 6-7 minutes...but you'll get the idea.

It's kind of an Industrial/Trance hybrid (?) for all of you genre police...

Listen for a big breakdown/changeup at about 4 minutes in...

Special thanks to Stephen Hummel, Celmo, Neutron (he's getting better and better by the second), Subhuman, Algorhthym, and all of the others who have helped me out...

Let me know what you think?

I really liked this, but only up to about 5:32. I was listening along and thinking to myself yeah this is really good. Nicely balanced, great sounds (pulsar synths?), builds nicely (maybe drags a bit but then this isn't a radio edit ). I was thinking that this was very well mixed and professional sounding....until 5:32. Those lead synths you introduce sought of jumped right out at me and destroyed the mix. They don't seem to sit in quite well. Anyway, this is just my opinion and I don't normally listen to a lot of this stuff. So if you don't mind, I'll keep this on file (cause I really like it) but I'll fade out around 5:32. Really good work!

Thanks for your response, I really appreciate you taking the time to express your opinion. Sometimes it can be so hard to see things from an outside perspective...so when a person is willing to offer their insight, it means a lot...

I'm definitely aware that I'm kind of going out on a limb with this one (maybe not the smartest thing to do with a first release, but that's what side B's for, right?). You're right, it does drag in the build somewhat...I'm thinking about throwing some kind of a wailing guitar line to kind of shake things up a bit. It may also help to balance out the latter half of the song.

There's actually a lot of things going on during the buildup...unfortunately, due to my lack of EQ'ing and panning experience, I haven't been able to get a really good sound separation in there. So a lot of sounds are lost (most notably strings).

I can definitely see your point on the lead synths at 5:32. It's at this point that the song totally becomes different. Stupid? Probably. But when I made it, I got tingles. That's usually what I go by.

I kind of wrote in to stand in stark contrast to the introductory half...in the beginning, you have lush, atmospheric strings...and then I (attempt to) pull the sheets out from underneath the listener and give them a good grind. Without this contrast, I don't think the second half would have nearly as much bite.

If it's any consolation, I'm going to reintroduce the strings around the time that it cuts out on the MP3 that I uploaded, and I'm going to crescendo from there with a bunch of high notes and (probably) a drumroll...

My point of view is mainly that of a person on the dancefloor....and that of a good ol' Southern California goth boy (living in Las Vegas at the moment)...

If I get enough complaints about the latter half of the song, I'll probably change it. But so far, I've had a variety of different complaints, but never the same thing twice. This is both good and bad...

If anyone's curious, I used a lot of arpeggiated Celmo synths. I also make heavy use of Quadrafuzz (the VST plugin). The strings and drums are mainly from the Korg Triton, and a lot of the stranger sounds that you hear are samples (for instance, the part that sounds like children cheering is actually a goat's bleating, the birdlike sound at the breakdown is a killer whale). Also, that hula-type guitar/303 noise that comes in at 2:53 is Stephen Hummel's version of the Inferno, run through Alfonso's brilliant (although hard to master) Synth Guitar patch for the Modular 2.

Thanks for listening!

jt