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This file has expired and is no longer available here. The owner of the topic can re-upload the file, or post a link to an off-site file. <BR><BR><a name="planetz-tag"></a>Genre: Electronic<BR> <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Uses: Pulsar Effects,Pulsar Mixers,Pulsar Synths<BR> copyright © Alan Lauris<BR> _____________________________________<BR><BR> Down tempo song where Prisma meets Saturn. Also eds8 drums, pulsar fx, mixers and sample players.

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a pro!
text book pop.
well done.

Nice song indeed. The mix is quite good too. Nevertheless, I would be pleased with the use of some automation, panning voices and melodies with some alive panning, it’s a bit to static to my test. Very nice sound altogether when reaching the piano melody about the middle of the song.

Nice and creative use of harmony, the modulation of mayor chords is interesting and gives to it, a very soft Spanish touch, harmonically speaking.

I think it’s a nice, good job, I’m just trying to learn and to give some valuable points to you, so I obviously keep looking for things I would change, some details to fix, thinking as if I was the composer-mixer of the song. Best regards

Thanx very much! It's the kind of comment I can use! What do you exactly mean by automation? I think I agree with you that the're could have been more dynamics. My original idea was to have the female voice only, but when she sang it over my demotrack it sounded well together. However, it was quite a job to let the voices match, and I think I lost some (attention for) dynamics in the mix there.
I never realized that it has some spanish touch, but I think you're right.
best regards too!! Alan.

Hello there… Well, what I mean for automation is that I would like for the voices to move through the pan spectrum here and there, but slowly, kind a giving to it a slow motion, soft but warm movement. (Sorry if I don’t express myself with full English, I just can’t cos it’s not my first language)

I definitely like the voices together cos, being honest, despite the fact that she has a nice voice, she sings with fear, she’s paying too much attention to tuning and so expression is a bit lost. Singing together covers it and the song goes on beautifully.

VOICE MOTION: Yes, some movement, inserting some live into them, sometimes a delay, just at the end of a musical phrase, let’s say: “I’m so happy to see your face”, well, instead of leaving it dead at the end, you can introduce a little echo of the voices: “I’m so happy to see your face… your face, your face”. This little details are completely sticking to your memory and it’s difficult not to like them if they are creative and properly introduced into the song.

You could pan a musical phrase panning her to the right while you’re into the left, next strophe you could inverse the order going her left and you right.

You could introduce a high cut or low cut into a single word, but always kipping in mind the expression of the words, what they mean, so this gives stronger expression to what is being said and enriches the melody at a timber level too.

Obviously, there’s no need to sing always unison, you could sometimes go with to voices, and this is always enjoyable.

When panning, cos this is a soft tune, I would expect for it to move slowly from left to right, from right to left. I said “automation” cos this is what I call it, cos I do it into Cubase…

Etc., etc., etc... I Think you got my design, these sort of several “you could” I’ve given you up here, are just references to a way of doing something, i.e. the spirit with which I would act into this song, rather than giving you a complete, concrete idea. Hope it’s clear and useful to you.

i really like this one!
all the drums are played from ESDI8??? why i cannot obtain such a result!!?!?! where i do misktake?
apart from this useless considerations, very good work!

well, to be honest: it's ESDI8 combined with a lofi drumloop and a shaker from a synth module. So you can stop trying now....

Pretty song! Nice, elevating mood, which lacks so much to most techno music... If I can give a comment: have you noticed that almost every sentence which is sung begins on the first time of the measure? And since the vocal melody stays in the same pattern althrough the song, it becomes a bit redundant. I think the vocal part would gain independance from the whole if the first time was skipped once in a while (by the voice). Such subtle rythmic variations would not change the song much, but would create a more balanced repartition of the rythmic space. Since the first time of each bar is obvious, then there is no need to over-emphasize it with the voice along with drums, bass, synths, etc.
This music has many qualities, and that is why I take time to write this comment. But I spent and spend a lot of time putting words onto music, and now I hear almost instantly the weaknesses in the rythmic counterpoint between the voice and the music. But that is the only thing I see to improve: displace the first time accent whether before or after the time. Try this, just for fun: start to sing the sentence on the anticipation (8th before the first time) and see what it does. To do this here and there could be interesting and greatly improve the overall impression...
But again: nice work!

Thanx for the tip! Usually I write the melody before the lyrics; because I think a strong melody is important. I agree that when a voice sings the melody, it should add some (not too much: I hate the Mariah Carrey-people who can't sing a note without putting ten rapid notes around it to show how well they can sing) variation, especially in timing. I'll keep it in mind!!