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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 11:08 pm
by chickeneps
Hi - like this forum, just joined.

Chicken Systems will be translating directly into the STS format (which means .sts files and .wav files) very shortly. We will be adding the additional parameters STS facilitates and the long files names that STS makes available.

PC and Mac flavors will be available.

What you'll be able to do is take any Akai, Emu, Roland, Kurzweil, Ensoniq, SoundFont, SampleCell, etc. and make a STS file(s) out of it.

The Pulsar is flexible, and with certain exceptions, can handle most of what other formats can throw at it.

If there's anything you really want in this type of feature, please post here or e-mail us privately.

Thanks!

Posted: Wed May 01, 2002 7:35 am
by wayne
Sounds good to me :grin:
:cool: WELCOME :cool:

Posted: Wed May 01, 2002 10:16 am
by subhuman
VERY :cool: ... Welcome Garth, we're very glad you're here.

Posted: Wed May 01, 2002 6:51 pm
by marcuspocus
Hi, and welcome aboard!

For a suggestion, it would be cool if my translator was able to convert FROM sts to Akai on the fly (like the creation of a CD image). As of now, i can convert about anything to STS (.P and .S for now...) but not backward. One activities i often do, is convert an akai disk to STS, chose some nice sounding programs, tweak them to my taste, then create a compilation CD of those... Since everybody is at least able to read akai disk, i use translator to create those image. But before i can create the image using translator, i have to save back my STSs files in .P and .S again using the STS itself, files by files. That's pretty boring :smile:

Posted: Wed May 01, 2002 7:20 pm
by chickeneps
OK, we'll take care of that. I do know that the long file names, if larger than 12 characters (10 if stereo, but I don't think STS stores stereo .wav files, does it?), will be truncated.

I'll tr ythe next build, up later this week.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2002 12:29 am
by caleb
Aha! I do have a question Garth.

In Chick Sys' translation to STS, will it correctly convert velocity layering into the STS format?

The reason I ask this is that - for me anyway - I find the STS import of SF2 to be very substandard in that regard.

If you grab say Pianissimum soundfont with 12 velocity layers or so, it will not be converted correctly into the STS.

If you use AWave to translate from SF2 to AKAI, you'll successfully convert, but only 4 layers at a time.

Now, I know you are aware of the peculiarities of the AKAI formats and I'm guessing that STS is a superset of these?

Will Chick Sys successfully convert an SF2 12 velocity layer instrument into the STS format?


Meanwhile - on another note - does Chick Sys translate files into SampleCell format? (I know it's a side-track question)

Posted: Thu May 02, 2002 2:16 am
by at0m
On 2002-05-01 20:20, chickeneps wrote:
I don't think STS stores stereo .wav files, does it?
Not for the moment, but does somebody know how it will be in Pulsar OS 3.1? I thought I read soemthing about CW making STS ready for stereo wav's, can't find it again though. Was it a suggestion or an announcement?

at0mic.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2002 4:41 am
by chickeneps
>In Chick Sys' translation to STS, will it >correctly convert velocity layering into >the STS format?
>If you use AWave to translate from SF2 to >AKAI, you'll successfully convert, but only >4 layers at a time.
>Now, I know you are aware of the >peculiarities of the AKAI formats and I'm >guessing that STS is a superset of these?
>Will Chick Sys successfully convert an SF2 >12 velocity layer instrument into the STS >format?

Yes. Here's how the Akai format works. (I hate to say "Akai", because we are talking about Pulsar/STS, but it's basically the same.)

You have up to 100 "keygroups," which is a set of parameters within a keyrange. Within that keyrange you can assign up to 4 samples (these are somewhat misnamed "zones"). Each zone has it's own velocity range, tuning, level, pan, filter cutoff, loop type, vel->start.

Your allusion to only 4 velocity layers comes from the fact that these convertors programs use the zones within only a single keygroup to replicate things. What isn't so documented is that you can overlap and layer keygroups all you want. So to reproduce 12 velocity layers would require 3 keygroups with all the zones referenced. Seems pretty easy, actually.

Translator does this - I don't know why the other convertors don't do this. That was why Translator was made.

>Meanwhile - on another note - does Chick >Sys translate files into SampleCell format?

It's just getting that capability. We are putting out a Mac version and there really wasn't any reason to do SsampleCell until that came into being.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2002 5:09 am
by kensuguro
wow, someone from chicken system! You're joining is more than welcomed!

Posted: Thu May 02, 2002 11:37 am
by cook
Maybe we get a -planetz- group discount...
'Yeah, we take, say, 1028.'
:grin:



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Posted: Thu May 02, 2002 12:21 pm
by snoopy4ever
Hey chickeneps .., That's what I've been looking for...
Do you have any beta testers program, so I can give it a try??? :wink:.



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Posted: Thu May 02, 2002 1:12 pm
by chickeneps
You can sign up for the testers program; doesn't mean you'll be used. Give some good qualifications, and I know we'll be running some trials soon.

As for the discount, I'll try to set something up.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2002 7:34 pm
by caleb
Thanks for your prompt reply Garth.

A long time ago I looked at Chick Sys Translator and decided against it. But recently it's become more and more important to me that translations be as faithful as possible. It looks like you guys put a hell of a lot of attention into getting it right.

I notice you're also putting a "To SampleTank" translation in the software. This is also of interest to me.

I think I'm going to be one of your customers soon.

Posted: Fri May 03, 2002 9:41 am
by mr swim
I'm with caleb. Its been niggling at me for a long time that sts doesn't convert sf properly, because many free multi-samples are sf. Be shopping with you soon !

Posted: Sun May 05, 2002 7:39 pm
by braincell
I would like to be a tester for the Emax conversion. I spoke with you on the phone about it and emailed you a couple images. I have noticed on your webpage that since then other people have requested the Emax format. My 44 MB syquest drives are waiting eagerly :smile:.

Posted: Mon May 06, 2002 7:12 am
by chickeneps
There's not too much demand for Emax, but we have most of the info here, so we should get it done. I assume you mean Emax->STS.

Question for all: what difference does it make that you can convert to p+s files as opposed to .sts-.wav files? Currently you can do p+s files.

Posted: Mon May 06, 2002 7:14 am
by jupiter8
I for one don't care what format it is as long as i can load it to my STS.

Posted: Mon May 06, 2002 7:49 am
by chickeneps
Transaltor already does translate into the p+s formats (.p for programs, .s for samples) already, and you can load them into your STS. All Akai, Ensoniq, Emu, Kurzweil, Roland are avaialble. SoundFont and SampleCell are comming this week, as well as native STS support, which adds the additional paramters, samples are in .wav format for ataptability, and long file names.

(Sorry if I am repeating myself - I think I am)

Posted: Mon May 06, 2002 8:00 am
by at0m
I'm wondering if anyone here knows if Pulsar OS 3.1 samplers will support stereo wavs. Maybe I should write CW about it, cos that can make a nice difference if you could adjust for that. I think they announced it, but it may be rumours as well. I don't remember. Damn gruyère memory.

Posted: Wed May 08, 2002 3:32 am
by braincell
Sure emax to sts but emax to akai would be just as good.