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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2002 2:25 am
by Matt
http://community.sonikmatter.com/emagic ... 9;t=000138

I was reading this thread and wondering if this could affect my decision to go for Logic 5. I have no PCI problems at all at the moment bur wouldn't like to start experiencing them if I could help it. What does anyone think?

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2002 5:57 am
by jupiter8
It does depend on your MOBO.
I believe the Intel 8xx series don't have this problem since the USB does'nt pass thru the PCI bus.

And another question: how can the USB take PCI bandwitdh when it is on but barely in use?
The dongle check can't be taking that much bandwitdh,almost nothing.

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2002 1:37 pm
by milupin
hi jupiter 8

the problem is not the XSKey the problem is USB; Logic Audio up to 481 came with a serialdongle; to upgrade to 5 one has to activate USB in order to use the new usb-dongle, and this is really bad; just at the moment I´m having a serie of tests with USB and without USB; at the moment I´m recording 8 stereo-tracks at the same time in logic-audio 481, but this works only without usb

I wouldn´t go for LAP5 now (which I did); maybe emagic is coming out with a special serial-adapter for the XSKey :wink: only a thought..

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2002 8:41 am
by jupiter8
I know there is a problem with having USB on in some computers.
I wonder why?
Because it passes thru the PCI bus?
USB is like 1 MB/s! That can hardly affect the PCI bus,can it?
And why should it use the bandwitdh when there is nothing (almost) on it?
Just curious!

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2002 8:49 am
by subhuman
<i>USB is like 1 MB/s! That can hardly affect the PCI bus,can it? </i>

Yes but some (most?) USB devices are 'chatty' -- sending data every few seconds across the bus even when the device is not in use. I'm beginning to think it's not actually purely a PCI 'bandwidth' issue, but rather a PCI timing issue... (after more tests with the RD2 Geiger). And Creamware cards are definitely PCI 2.1 compliant, so...

I fixed one guy's machine which was having horrible PCI overflow problems, but having him unplug his PocketPC which was sitting in the USB docking bay.

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2002 1:38 pm
by milupin
hi,,,

maybe you are interested to know that using a USB-PCI-Card has fixed all my pci-bandwidth-problems; I put that in a thread because I think the hint is worth it.

Now I can start doing some music, .. uffff....