Z-Link question

[yayajohn]

Trying to sync an Xite z-link to a PCI Z-link.
Is this possible?
Doesn't seem to work.

[t_tangent]

Yes it should be possible. Are you sure the cables are ok, also make sure one side is set to slave and the other to master, same sample rate. And add Z-link modules to both sides routing windows

[nebelfuerst]

Is there a "Z-Link-slavemode" ?
I know, this kind of linking works with Adat, but I never tried Z-link.

[Bud Weiser]

Is there a "Z-Link-slavemode" ?
I know, this kind of linking works with Adat, but I never tried Z-link.

I sync A16U via Z-Link to XITE-1 (Scope 7 x64) an do the same w/ A16U and Scope7 PCI x86.
I never tried to sync both systems directly via Z-Link,- but what´s the difference when setting 1 system (p.ex. XITE-1) to "master" and the other (Scope PCI) to "slave"?
Z-Link A and Z-Link B appear as sync sources in Scope XITE v7 samplerate settings window,- and IIRC,- it´s the same in Scope PCI v7.
I hope that´s correct for the PCI side.
So,- it SHOULD work as long it isn´t buggy.



Bud

[yayajohn]

So it looks like it is not going to work based on my experimenting.
If anyone can confirm that they have it working then please let me know.
Thanks for all the input.

Dan

[garyb]

z-link only works one way. you can use ADAT or AES/SpDif to bridge between systems.

[yayajohn]

Ok then i won't fiddle with it any further.
ADAT distance was a little too far and thought the Z-Link might work.
After reading the install manual I understand why now..
Thanks to all.

Dan

[garyb]

distance is too far for ADAT?
you can go like 50ft and if that's not enough, just add a repeater(it's possible to go much further without a repeater, but...). i have gone over 150ft with no issues. you can go much farther than that.

[valis]

I had issues with ADAT in 20-30 ft cable runs in 2003, but none in this era. Most of that was related to the fragility of cables that were higher quality, and the low quality plastic used in the cheap ones (which were opaque enough to absorb a fair amount of light on longer runs). It's such an everpresent tech for consumers now it seams the biggest issue is the connectors fitting properly--or crowding each other out etc.

[yayajohn]

No, haha. I just had 2 extra long firewire cables and some not as long ADAT cables that came up a little short for what I was trying to connect.
I moved some gear around and all is well now.
Valis, i have run into that also with the plugs being oversized. Very aggravating that they seem to overlook the standard ADAT setup with the connections usually being close together. Prob not the case with audiophile equipment though.

[Bud Weiser]

Ok then i won't fiddle with it any further.

Why ?

Your original demand was "to sync an Xite z-link to a PCI Z-link" ... no ?

No word about bi-directional (audio-)data traffic between both workstations and via Z-Link.

I can imagine "sync" and "data traffic" in one direction via Z-Link.
Did or does that work ?

It might make sense when using the "master" workstation as a sound source generator only and record on the "slave" workastation (p.ex. running VDat).
I guess it would need MIDI sync in addition.



Bud

[Bud Weiser]

distance is too far for ADAT?
you can go like 50ft and if that's not enough, just add a repeater(it's possible to go much further without a repeater, but...). i have gone over 150ft with no issues. you can go much farther than that.

I bought a couple of these for cheap ...
https://appsys.ch/en/products/extenders ... dx-64b-pro
100 meters (300+ feet) no problem.
Mine transfer ADAT and,- on demand,- wordclock in addition.
They lack the MIDI option,- which I planned to realize via rtpMIDI in a separate network anyway.



Bud

[valis]

Latency <1µs

Will keep that in mind